I agree in fact: you can battle heaps, be here for a long time but don't give shit about newbies trying to elevate or about the site. Some consider themselves a vet and feel better than newbies or just feel too good to help others out. Well, that's just sad when you think you were one yourself when you first got here...

But bleh, that whole vet thing...everyone has a different definition for a vet and will make up their list according to that definition.

All in all, we're just people that share same passion for music and are here to get better at what we do whether you are a vet or a newbie.

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