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Originally Posted by Doomsday
:sigh: I'm startign to think you get off on me brutalizing you publically liek this, but here we go:
1: No, I don't be-LIE-ve air exists. I KNOW it exists. And yes, I've seen it many times. I used to build race machines for a living and all of them were either turbo charged or supercharged. Blow-off valves would flush out compresed air, which is a white vapor. Nitrous Oxide cannisters expell air (oxygen) as a white vapor. The heat off the engines could be seen bending the air into waves. You nca duck down to the ground on a hot day and look at the horrizion and see this for your self. Also, in a can of compressed air you cna see it being expelled all the same - as a white mist, which is air molecules bundled tightly into one space. So yes I've seen it and know it exists and no, your argument still holds no water.
2: You'd have a valid point if I didn't know people that went to south africa and people who are from sounth africa - but lets say that they're all lying. If I wanted to verify for my self that south africa exists, I'd simply book a flight and go touch it and experience it my self. If I didnt' believe such a place exists, I'd simply go to North Africa, and travel sounth till I hit South Africa. Your "ghosts" however have absolutely zilch means to verify their existance under any controlled or uncontrolled envroinment.
This is not Philosophy, This is factology. I don't "believe" anytihng. Either I know it or I don't.
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hahaha...**dusts off keypad**
#1...U've seen air? Are you sure? hmm..interesting...I know chocolate cake exists cuz I've had it and I've made it...I used OIL, EGGS, FLOUR, and CHOCOLATE topping...U can break it down intot he elements...Now, AIR broken down into it's simplest form is ATOMS...right? Have u seen Atoms? Have u actually seen protons, neutrons, and electrons? So, what you saw from those engines could be a variation of something else we haven't discovered they call "air"....IN fact, I think the same thing could be made of you saying "ghosts" don't exist...if I say I've seen a ghost and you discredit it, then I'm just as justified in saying that what you call "air" is merely some other occurence u misinterpret...TIT for a TA....
#2...Those people who claim to have been to South Africa could all be suffereing from hsyteria...right? You haven't been there...So, you have no "proof" that it exists...And, even if you did go, according to your argument, I can't accept your version of "fact" simply because you come back with stories of having seen this "great land"...People who have "seen" ghosts say the same thing...and yet you discredit them...what's the difference...
**The fact of the matter is simple...there are no absolutes other than math...right? If that's true, then the only way to prove anything exists is to conceptualize it in some formula...cuz even if ur eyes PERCEIVE IT, that doesn't prove the "existence" of it--i.e., holograms.
This is going no where tonight Dooms...