Ysdat; I take my rap very seriously.. I dont slip up when I'm giving opinions and anything I have said I would stand by 100%..

Rap is not poetry. It would be clear enough to most people when OMB made his point about when rap first started, the dudes who made it were more into reggae and rap was what they used to host parties. You think Kool Herc was speaking emotional poetry when he introduced well known members of the crowd at his partys? That my friend is the birth of rap itself.

Furthermore, do you feel NWA was being all deep and poetical when they wrote the lyrics to famous RAP songs like "FUCK THE POLICE" Or for a more recent reference, when Eminem was dosed up on MDMA caps writing stuff like "I'm cancerous, so when I diss, you wouldnt wanna answer this if you responded back with a battle rap you wrote for canibus".. Was fucking poetry on his mind brutha?

I'm trying my hardest not to sound condescending as you obviously have it in your head that I'm working against you, not to mention telling me to chill out after immediatly taking up an overly defencive stance in the other thread, creating a new thread based on the small argument that I forgot even happened; and making comments like this one:

Which was mildly humorous and ironic to me considering that statement itself is basically, 100% wrong...

Rap is a form of music, as much as you hate it; 50 Cent & G-unit are successful rappers, you said it best yourself that everyone has their own opinions.. However saying rap is poetry is attempting to steriotype what 'real' rap is considering how many raps simply have no relation to poetry even in the most abstract analysis. When you look at rap on an industry level; the artists that sell, are always the ones that speak a clear message using language people can understand, I have been given this advice by plenty of knowledgable people when talking about hip hop. Poetry on the other hand, is words describing feelings, emotions and thoughts that can serve as a reference to certain feelings, emotions and thoughts that the reader has experienced, that is why a poem one person will love, can be complete garbage to another (like I said in the previous thread, one mans trash is another mans treasure). Poetry when done correctly, is not something that is designed to be implemented into rap or music for that matter. Sure you can write a poem and then make a track with the same meaning. But you wouldnt straight up use the same wording as in a poem simply because poems have a different set up and approach to rap as a form of music.

And for anyone who says "hey I'd use my poetry in rap songs" Your either:
A - Never going to hold a successful rap career.
B - Not writing proper poetry.

Ysdat, I invite you to post one of your verses that you feel is very poetical and would make a killer rap song at the same time... I'm sure its possable, but straight up saying rap is poetry is very ignorant to every other style of lyricism that rap implements to build up this form of music.

I dont try to come off as a know it all.. But I'm definatly not a bumbling fool that pretends to be smarter than he is. And for future reference, here is the most major (among other) contradictions you made while arguing here.


Might I also make note of my paragraph on kool herc and the origions of rap in this post here aswell, funny how raps 'origional form' differs from what it is in reality inside your head.

I'm done now. You would have to be hell bent in revenge mode if you further this argument and attempt to be-little my opinions in order to disagree with anything I have said. I'm a philosopher myself Ysdat; opinions and the study of the way things work are my game... And you wont beat me at my own game, I dont talk unless I know exactly what I'm saying.