I'll get the stupid one out of the way first..
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Originally Posted by Jroy
well we'll find out what happens in the end wont we we'll knwo that what i said was truth
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Your views on the way things used to be are in-correct and naieve. And make no difference at all. Follow religion, but dont just blindly believe everything your told buddy.... Thats all I'm going to say to you.
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Originally Posted by Mentalz
^ lol.
In short, I believe religion is a crutch for the weak minded as a way to transgress their guilty conscience to a higher order (god through asking forgiveness) In a better attempt to live day-to-day life easier without feeling guilty for mistakes they've made in the past. That it just my opinion.
Some religious people try to make me understand and the best ive heard is this:
How do you know a building is there? How do you know a car is there? Because someone BUILT IT, and you're whitnessing the creation of someone/thing else.
I've arrgued countless times and asked how is it not possible that some loon along time ago made the bible up? How could we be the only ones in the universe with a conscience mind, seems like a waste of space. Science and Religion contradict themselves. One follows the theory of evelution, one I tend to follow due to the physical proof of it. The other is based on faith of which I see no proof except the Bible.
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I know most people cant comprehend religion and evolution existing side by side. And nobody is asking you to change your views on religion. However.. Here is why I believe what I believe.
I used to be just like you.. I had decided myself that religion was an ancient method of control to prevent people living in an outlaw society where laws would have been poory enforced and what better way to get people doing what their told than to tell them they will burn in hell for eternity if they dont do what the church tells them to. Right?
Well nobody can prove that wrong ofcourse.
However the more I studied religion and started to make more educated assumptions on its purpose I began to find myself understanding the real value of religion to our modern society. Personally I disreguard a lot of religious belief's even though I dont dissagree with them. In my own way, I have studied and come to conclusions and now I believe I understand religion on a level a lot of people couldnt even fathom.. My belief that god is a transendant mind that concieved the universe and its inhabitance, this theory does not conflict with any religious or scientific belief's. It is simply on a different level. I believe god created science, evolution & gave religion to prophets around the world to suit different cultures perfectly how it needed to be done. Ofcourse there are differences in religions, but how exactly would you expect them to stay seperate for so long? Because people blindly give faith to their own religious belief's and dont actually attempt to believe any others. I think you'll find there are often ways to translate most religious belief's in a language other religions would understand without going too far to make connections.
That is my belief in a nutshell. But heres the part I've been working up to.
Science has one major flaw above all else that it cannot explain, a final peice of the puzzle if you will that is missing. The scientific creation story says that the universe was made by a big bang. But they have no explenation as to how this big bang came about. How exactly did it happen? And more importantly.. What existed before the big bang?
There is not a scrap of evidence either way that could possably dissagree with god being a transendant eternal mind that concieved the universe (possibly with a big bang) and since god does not go by the same time perseption as we do, there is no telling whether billions of years to us, could be simply another point of reference on a larger scale of time to him.
God is the final peice of the puzzle explaining our existance whether science can prove it or not. Everything else within religion is secondary. Explain to me otherwise if you are able to do so as it may be slightly amusing.
I'd go on and on and on for a lot longer but I jus got a call and I really gotta go..
Too bad ey..
Hope this post helps though.