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Old 02-12-06, 02:17 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
some of the most successful black people in the world have come from some of the most adverse ciscumstances you can imagine...Maya angelous was raped when she was younger and I believe she was also a prostitute at a point...Oprah was poor as hell, and raped when she was younger...she's down in history as the 1st self-made black female BILLionaire...don't ever say you "can't" do this because of one reason or another, if you want it, you'll work for it...yes, some white people get handed kushy jobs and don't have to work their way up a company cuz someone in their family owns some shit but black people that own shit do the SAME thing...nothing is impossible and when you don't succeed it's always easier to blame someone else and you're circumstances aren't always your fault but you gotta fight to get what and where you want in life...when you get lemons, you make lemonade...would people really appreciate shit if they didn't have to work for it? no...they'd let go and wouldn't care because they wouldn't appreciate shit...you think if Oprah grew up rich and never worked to get where she is, that she'd make life better for other people in bad situations and help them, you think she'd wake up and pray thanking GOD everyday for what he's allowed her to accomplish? HELL NO...I've never once heard her say that the way some white people are prevented her from doing or becoming what she wanted...if you don't succeed, it IS your fault


(to your post directly above this)

everyone is judged from the time they are born and beyond..nah scratch that, from BEFORE they're born...you are 1st judged by your race cuz your parents are already here, but as an individual you are first judged on your gender...that's the first category you are put into and judged from there...EVERYONE is judged, not just people from a certain class or race

Ok, don't try to throw a bunch of exceptions at me to prove that anyone can make it. My dad grew up in worse circumstances, has been working since he was 16, like 30% of the time he had two jobs. He has been working hard all his life, he never gets to go to sleep before 11 pm and has to get up at 4 am everyday. SO if what you're saying is true, he should have gotten somewhere by now because he worked so hard. But guess what, it's not what happened. I'm tired of all this pat on the back shit for black people who make it because it makes it look like a fucking charity. And once again, I never said I was blaming it on white people. I blame it on the government for the way shit is run that allows racists to get places, that's all.

And uh, i'm addressing the second part below.

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Negative.

Black people arnt judged by their skin color. They are judged just like everyone else. By the way they act, the way they dress and the way they talk.

Skin color doesent hinder anybody. But black people raised in ghettos get taught to speak with slang, act rough and dress like thugs.. And it has nothing to do with white people holding them back...

If someone born in that situation went and bought some respectable looking cloathes, fixed their way of talking and carried themselves in a different mannor.. Provided they had the brains, they could go anywhere with their lives...

And dont act like its just a black problem too.. Theres poor white people who cant get a job cause of those same reasons too... Welcome to the concept of poverty bro...

It aint about skin color anymore.. Thats a BIG misconception...

Okay, so do you think a racist person who's hiring at a job is gunna stop and say "Oh, this black guy isn't ghetto, so I like him!"? Cuz it doesn't happen. When it comes to racist people, yes, black people are judged by the color of their skin. And there are a SHITLOAD of racists and undercover racists that I have seen in my life, don't try to act like it doesn't exist. Now, put the white person who made themselves better next to the black person who made themselves better in front of a racist person, who's gunna get the job?

And by the way, you can't just change the way you are raised, it goes in and the rest of your life is based on it no matter what you do. So don't come give me some shit about how it's our parents fault because I already explained how the shit has carried on through the generations.
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