dawg I never said he was a producer...it's unethical for a producer to sell a beat to someone that's tryina get signed and then sell the same beat to a bigger named artist, besides that, I'd bet that JAy-Z knew someone else did a song to it before him cuz he prolly heard it and that's why he wanted it...either way, he steals from other people and that Lupe Fiasco song was done some years ago, WAY before Jay-Z's the Balck Album came out cuz my girl from Chicago heard it before...and she knows Payroll personally cuz SHE's his producer right now

either way you look at it, Jay-Z is a biter, PERIOD