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Originally Posted by MynameizThaQ
Tero...I perused that. I didn't read it thoroughly. But, what a coincidence that I had a similar conversation with Enygma yesterday on the Da Vinci Code.
1st, why do you insist on showing bigotry by saying, "Closed-minded CHRISTIAN?" Isn't that the equivalent of saying, "One of those Unemployed BLACKS." No. The person you talked to was closed minded, and just happened to be a christian, inasmuchas the person in my analogy is unemployed, and HAPPENS to be black.
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I didn't mean to generalize, sorry for poor choice of words. But there is a particular type of "christian" (if they can even be considered that), that seems naive in a way for believing everything they are told, and having a narrow scope on religious matters. For example, many teenagers consider themselves christian without understanding Jesus' message or his teachings. And others, like the man I was talking about, have a limited knowledge in religion, but an extensive knowledge in christianity, therefore making their opinions strongly biased.
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Originally Posted by MynameizThaQ
2nd...Any bible understanding/believing Christian knows the accounts recorded in the bible. Books like the Da Vinci code were written for profit. It's based on documents that were not corroborated, nor verified as authentic accounts of Jesus' life or ministry. Example...The gospel of "Phillip" much of the accusations of Jesus' marriage to Mary Magdalene were based on wasn't included in the original canon. Why? It's because it's not true! Furthermore, Dan Brown's so-called factual documents are nothing more than elucubrations and should be questioned even more than the bible for their authenticity.
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True, and indeed I know of the very passage of the scripture that first hinted Jesus relationship with Mary Magdeline. It was damaged, and incomplete, which already means that any theories based on it will be shaky. I personally don't 100% believe in the Da Vinci Code theory. It is plausible, but thats it. Likely, but also unlikely, depending on your mindset.
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Originally Posted by MynameizThaQ
You have to realize something. The bible not only speaks of history, but spiritual matters. People who are not spiritually minded won't understand, CAN'T understand spiritual things. That's why people think certain points in the bible are "foolish." In truth, man's wisdom is foolishness to God. Human Secularism, Legalism, New Age Philosophies, and other vain doctrines serve to do one thing according to the bible, and that's blind mankind to the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ. That's what we believe.
I'm not sure what you seek to prove by showing coincidences in philosophies between the bible and other text, but it doesn't take away from the overlying theme of the New Testament: Jesus is Lord.
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Ah, but is not a man who follows Jesus a wise man? A man made foolish by society and the world, attempting to escape and find his true nature through following Jesus? Notice the use of the word "follow." To follow Jesus is to act and think as he did, not just to believe in him. Man truly is foolish, but Jesus was a man, and just like Jesus there are gems on this muddy road of existence.
One thing YOU should realize, is that humans are human. Who gives ANYBODY the right to preach the word of the Lord? Men appoint priests, men decide who the pope is. Q, I can see you are a spiritual person, but look past what is in front of you, and listen to what the bible says. Modern christianity IS blinding mankind to the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ, in many many ways. In this world, people have to discover the truth for themselves, as taking anybody's word for it just isn't good enough!
Also remember, the bible is written by man, take it with a grain of salt. Am I a man? Yes. Don't believe a word I say, just learn from it and find out for yourself.
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No other religion says that Jesus is the only way to God. The bible says that in John 14:6, and again in Acts 4.
If you want to know if someone is truly a Christian or not, if they have truly accepted the call of faith and are saved by Jesus, ask them who Jesus was. Listen to their answer. Many false prophets have gone out for the sake of perverting the truth of the Gospel. And, yes, we aren't to give that which is holy to the dogs. They can't understand spiritual matters because the god of this world (Satan) has blinded them. 2 Corinthians 4:4. The bible tells us in 1 Peter 4 to "try the spirits" to see whether they are of God. Anyone who says, "Jesus was just a good man" or "Jesus isn't a God" or "Jesus isn't the Christ" is of the spirit of anti-Christ and operating under a demonic spirit of error.
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Dhammapada - Chapter 06 v76.
"If you see an intelligent man who tells you where true treasures are to be found, who shows what is to be avoided, and administers reproofs, follow that wise man; it will be better, not worse, for those who follow him."
I consider myself a Buddhist. Yet I believe in Jesus teachings and thoughts, and in his identity. However I take the bible in a very different way to most christians. I am not a christian, and I wouldnt want to be. The connotations associated with christianity definitely do not describe the way I am spiritually. Buddha did not intend for his teachings to become a religion, it just happened that way. Buddhism is not so much a religion where you praise an entity, it is a school of thought. A guide to the truth. It doesnt tell me to believe something as the truth, it tells me how I can discover the truth on my own.
Do I think I know the truth, definitely not. But I know for a fact I am on the right path, because of the way I feel and the things that I have experienced and seen.
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Here's my challenge to you. If you choose to not accept the call of Jesus the Christ to surrender your life to him, then fine. But, why continue to dibble and dabble in God's word? Leave it alone. Be bold one way or the other. Either stand up for the truth of the gospel or shut up about it.
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My life isn't much, he can have it if he wants.