I'm not even going to read that entire paragraph your wrote because it started off with, "yeah i'm not knocking either underground/mainstream." This thread wasn't created for the sake of an argument between mainstream and underground. Mainstream has it's artists (I.E. Nas, Rakim, Eminem, ect.) who pack their albums full of creative and emotional tracks, I wasn't discounting mainstream in anysense. It was just coincidence that the artists I named happend to all be underground.