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Old 07-07-06, 11:09 AM   #52
Terumoto
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Originally Posted by Yvonne
at point number one..hell yeah u can tell him what u want and u will get it after time...if only u had FAITH & PATIENCE!

Faith is determined by DETERMINATION..and IF you are REALLY DETERMINED to get that thing u want,u definitely wud be PACIENT(h/e dats written) and believe that u wud get it..and heaven helps those who help themselves..u cant just ask him to aid u on something or to help u get something and just sit down with ur arms folded..He is there to HELP..

At point Numba two..the bible says dont love material things..dont LOVE them more than God,which means u can be concerned cos God undastands that we r humans and we must survive with what we got on here..yeah u shudnt put 'em at the top of ur list other than God cos he's the giver of PEACE, JOY and HEALTH(life)..have u eva experienced that innermost peace and joy?wud u like to have a decent job and get decent payments without being happy,having rest of mind or gd health?...when u read the passages or sayings of the bible u gatta ask urself WHY..mayne the material non-loving things was said cos the devil is here seeking who to kill,decieve and destroy...MONEY is the begining of EVIL...check out most ppl,cos of money they kill..i know they gatta survive cos every1 gats to.. but why do they gatta kill when there r many other ways to get money?...becos of material things we develope anger,we do all sorts,...hat was said in the bible so that u'd be carefull not to put into action the temptations of the devil..Too much of everything is bad as they say and man is neva satisfyed(cos the devil is always putting pressure and more temptations in our mins)..dats y we christians ask for the Holy spirit to giude us and tell us what to do so we can get what we want the right way and live peacefully with it...


Great explination. God is the driving force within, not some being that hands out what you want. But could it not be argued that this is psychological? A placebo affect?

About point number two, exactly. When I said that, I was referring to the christians to whom God is not first priority. And what you said about sins, I understand.

I HAVE felt that innermost peace and joy. I felt it once and since then i've been trying to find it again. Whether it is a "God" or not, I feel this great force, this untapped potential, the dynamic something within me and everyone. The feeling defies description and there is no experience with which this feeling can be compared.

I seek niether to posess or to be posessed. Money isnt an issue to me, I give away money almost everyday to anyone who asks for it (reasonably of course... To kids for food or whatever, not useless stuff). I dont covet paradise or fear hell.

Not only money divides people. RELIGION DIVIDES PEOPLE. If all the religions of the world were one, the world would be united in brotherhood. Some people fight with others because they believe in different religions. If they only gave the matter a bit of thought, they would never fight for such a foolish cause.

My spirituality is to let my mind be free. Not to localize or partialize is the end of my path... People should discipline themselves to let their mind go on its own way, instead of trying to deliberately confine it somewhere. The mind is infinite, so I look forward to seeing where it will lead me.

According to christianity, I am going to hell. Am I a bad person? I strive for compassion towards everyone and everything, yet I deserve to be tortured for all eternity? Jesus, your God's philosophies and parables are very similar to my outlooks on life. You could say I am striving to be like him, indirectly.

But your church, your doctrine, says I am a bad person. Didn't their God say to them judge not lest ye be judged?

If theres one thing in my life I have learnt, it's that this world is dark. Only a few people can see here.
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