Hip Hop is a culture...culture is art (including music as well), language, and dance...The 5 elements of Hip Hop cover all that so it can be viewed as a culture. Rap is the music part of hip hop. Rap wasn't formed from money etc...Rap was formed simply from hip hop and it just earned money and rappers started rapping about other things. Sugarhill Gang, Furious 5, that's all rap...So yea, even though D4L isn't good, they're still hiphop, they're just really really really wack (imo atleast).