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Originally Posted by Terumoto

Hmm, well im not really that passionate about that kids thing, and I basically agree with you on it. Like I said, im neutral when it comes to having kids. I dont desperately want to, but I wouldnt mind if I did. I was just arguing "for" for the sake of the argument. lol -_-

what a waste. your "point" eroded to dust as you went on anyway, regardless of how you felt. or not felt as the case may be.

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No, you've missed the point. Being selfless? That is showing loving kindness and compassion to sentient beings, not preaching. I guarantee 99/100 people you preach to wont give a shit about what you're saying at all. The Buddha himself said not to waste your time in companionship with a fool. Also,

64. If a fool be associated with a wise man even all his life, he will perceive the truth as little as a spoon perceives the taste of soup.

65. If an intelligent man be associated for one minute only with a wise man, he will soon perceive the truth, as the tongue perceives the taste of soup.

If somebody really wants to attain enlightenment, they will do it themselves. You can help them if you want, but its not the purpose of enlightenment at all. If it was, enlightenment would be as useless as the next material object. There is a story of a man who was very wise, that decided to write commentaries on the sutras so that he could help other people become wise also. I can't remember the exact turn of events, but something happened to him and then he became enlightened, and he burned all of his commentaries that he had spent over 10 years writing. He said "Compared to what I have attained, these writings are a fine hair in this entire universe, nothing more than a single drop in the vast ocean."

To look to the future, hoping some day that you will be enlightened and you will be wiser than everyone else, so much so that you can help them... Is pointless. That's just your conditioning kicking in. "Things will be better later on." They won't.

The purpose of enlightenment is to have no purpose.

woah woah woah, nobody said anything about pushing enlightenment on anyone. that's foolish. since you're in a quoting mood "when the student is ready, the teacher will appear". I never met a buddhist who wasn't willing to teach someone who really wanted to know.

that is the act of selflessness.

and enlightening your self soley for the prospect of possibly enlightening others is A: dumb and B: not what i said.

if you want to go through life drifting from one indifference to the next you're a waste of existance. buddhism teaches that one ascends into the vastness of matter for the purpose of ascending others.

if you feel tomorrow won't be better than today that's on you man. i damn sure know my today was beter than my yesterday. and my yesterday is leaps and bounds better than my days were a year ago. then again... i don't drift through life either, so my POV is evidently much different.