I have a lot to learn...
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Originally Posted by Compose
ok i have a few questions about religion and shit maybe someone like nos, omb, tha q or someone religion-aware and shit can answer, i know its a lot but oh well
1. People think or say god accepts people who have sinned and have truly turned their life around for the better for instance someone who murdered or robbed etc. and they completely turned around and they have a chance of getting into heaven, now my question is...where is the line drawn? how many murders before god says no you're unchangeable, how much time does it take for someone to be 'changed'? this type of shit pisses me off because i know people dont have the answer to it but its like wtf? can i rob this and be forgiven? they say no but then its like, but he did it and he was forgiven, the fuck is up with that shit?, and if god didnt forgive ANYBODY of sin, then there would be like 400 people up there...and all of them babies who died close to birth that havent had the chance to sin yet, cuz EVERYONE has sinned sooner or later
2. If there was no god and no heaven and there was nothing after we died idk about yall, but i woulda BEEN done mad shit robbed everything i needed to do to make my life better by any means necessary and the only thing stoppin me from that is 'hopes into getting into heaven' type shit, and then i see it like, fear of punishment after death is the same thing as hope for reward, as if heaven and hell were the same thing and we're all brainwashed into thinking religion is real by some guys who made it up a long time ago to control people like me
3. What if i went to heaven and i wanted to watch scarface or play san andreas, would i not be allowed to just because it has sinful images in it? same thing with music...or would god be dope and know its not real so we can do w/e the fuck we want
4. ^With #3 in mind about playing san andreas or watching scarface, now i hear when you get into heaven you FORGET your fucking past!?, yea nomore pain but WTF @ forgetting your past? thats fuckin bullshit, i dont wanna sit around and sing songs and hug people and smell flowers and all that bullshit, i wanna play violent video games and listen to w/e music i want or do w/e i want, they say you can get anything you want, that leaves 'everything' to a very limited amount of objects since so much shit is reguarded as a sin, that whole forgetting your past shit makes me not want to go to heaven at all, heaven seems like the most boring and stupid place anybody could ever go to.
and fuck reincarnation, i dont wanna turn into a fucking chair or refrigerator when i die
so yea, i know most people dont have the answers to these but maybe some have some insight into shit
oh yea, and to people who say life is just a test and shit...why the fuck would the 'almighty and loving' god put people through so much pain just to laugh at the devil and say "see, they picked me, i win, now give me my 10 bucks"
peace
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1. Well if christians believe in their religion, then that means they believe that as long as the person truly does change, they should be forgiven and be allowed into heaven. Thats what the bible says. Anyone who doesn't agree is not a christian. So if they say what if they are not forgiven, it doesnt affect them becuase theyre not christian.
2. It feels that way doesnt it. And you gotta think about it, could there have been an alterior motive in authorities making religion a big deal? Is it's efficient mind-controlling ablity coincidental?
3 & 4. Well if you can read, you gather an idea of heaven by reading the bible. It isnt clouds and angels with harps and halos and shit, its something different. No human being has experienced it, so they have no idea and everything is specualtion. However, I am pretty certain that the past will be gone in heaven, in blackness, but not in hell, because the past is actually so shit you dont even realise it.
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I believe in rebirth/reincarnation, and I think it is the most well rounded, down to earth and logical theory of "afterlife". Well unless youre hindu or something, they have a different one. However most forms of buddhism believe the logical way, and trust me it makes sense. If you want, let me know and ill explain it next post but im pretty fuckin burnt right now im getting a headache even from just typing this shit.
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