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Originally Posted by Terumoto
And in your order, there is chaos. A natural base state of chaos that, no matter what, can't be beaten. Books on shelves. What about the countless dust particles all over them, all in a random position? What about the vast array of colors of books, all random, and the light and dark on the books, its all totally random. Even your position next to the books and shelves. What are you in the universe? What could possibly be more random than a nos being right there right then in the entire scope of existence? Huh? And you're telling me order is 100% feasible in this world?!
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Dust particles on books?
Bro the spreading of dust itself is a systematic phenomenon that has been happening for all recorded history and is a minature part of a larger whole of a natural equilibrium that we live in..
Colors, random sizes? That has nothing to with chaos, that is a human decision that has been made for each seperate book. When were talking books, the most definitive information required to decypher what book we are looking for is the name and the author. Therefore this is where the order of the library system defeats chaos and creates an ordered system based on the books most important information.
My place in the universe is defined by a number of infinitly small particles gathered together and condensed tightly all at a certain point on a 3D point graph, be it a graff consisting of the legth of the entire universe vertically and horizontally or be it a graph of a small area surrounding the earth. Being that I am an organism constructed to be solid matter, my position is ofcourse important to me.. The relevance of the exact point I'm in relating to the universe is that I will not be.........say.....halfway through a wall... Where is the order you ask?
Cause and effect. I am standing here because I run a library, why do I run a library? I like books and want to make a living that way. Why do I like books? I possibly found an interest in learning at a young age which caused me to read books a lot. Why did that happen? Because I may have been brought up in a family that had a lot of interesting books I could read. Why did they have a lot of books? Maybe my family had traveled a lot and good reading material for long trips..................And you could go on forever.
Cause and effect IS order. Just like apexx was saying in his post.....Why does the tree grow as it does? Because a lot of its defining aspects are implanted into the seed itself to create an order that is required by this tree to survive and reproduce.
I AM telling you order is a perfectly logical concept that has been proven over time to work unfailably.
Dont you get it man?
Surly your not gonna come back and keep arguing that there is only chaos now right?
Thatd be embarrasing..............for you.....