Originally Posted by A p e x x

that sounds pretty silly to me but if that's what you believe, hey man, go for it. from whta you're saying it sounds like anything that ever happens (or doesn't happen) you could chalk up to "destiny".

i used "sitting there doing nothing" as an example because whne you do nothing, nothing happens. you won't magically find your self in your dream job, you won't have a knock at your door from your wife, nothing.

now if you do nothing and nothing happens, doesn't that clearly indicate that you have control over what happens to you?

if you dive off a cliff and bash your body into a liquid, your "destiny" wouldn't have you magically appear in a fine restaraunt eating fillet mignon. that would also indicate that "fate" and "destiny" doesn't just happen to you, you're at the helm.


and for the record, i the universe has order in its system of existance, not in the choices you make for your self