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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
I see those same quotes, and take it compleatly differently.
I and my father are one.......... -- It is quite obvious to me that this is the same for all things in the world of your belief. Your god is everything and everywhere, omniscient and controlling of all existance. We are all one with god, be it whether we are at peace with him or not is a different matter. I have serious doubts as to whether Jesus would class himself in a 'devine trinity' raising his status to the same level as the devine conceptual creator of the universe and all things in it. I believe strongly that this is a mere mistake in translation to a lesser mind attempting to gain a grasp of what Jesus was expressing with those words. He doesent mean he is god, he means he is a small but instrumental portion of the larger being of god.
And I am one with god myself, so are you! I believe any concept of a 'devine trinity' including the human prophet of a religion is blasphemous and I suspect Jesus himself would tell you the same.
If you pray to Jesus your replacing god with the title given to a man named Yeshua Bin Yosef 2000 years ago. Obviously this must be contradictory to a lot of your more fundemental beliefs on god, beyond the teachings of Jesus the human prophet.
But yeah... I've also yet to hear any proof that jesus actually 'died for our sins' also.............lol
Died for our sins..
Wtf does that even mean?
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As far as the Trinity being contradictory to the fundamentals, that is actually one of the fundamentals of Christianity.
Let me list them just so you can see.
1) Inspiration and Authority of Scripture - all scripture in the Bible is inspired by God
2) The Virgin Birth - Jesus was born of a virgin named Mary.
3) The Blood Attonement - The blood that Jesus shed on the cross saved us from eternal damnation in Hell.
4) The Deity of Jesus Christ - Which is the Trinity
5) Bodily Ressurection of Christ - After he died on the cross, he rose 3 days later
6) Jesus Pre-Millenial Return to Earth - Pretty self-explanatory
7) Reaching the Lost - The lost is the term we use to refer to those who do not have Christ in their life and have not accepted Him as their personal savior.
8) Living Seperate from Worldly Practices - The Bible says to not conform to the ways of the world. That being worldly practices that will ultimately go against what God's word says.
There may be others that someone may mention but all will most likely go under one that I have listed.
You may not agree with any of them and I highly doubt that you will. So if you have any questions, feel free to ask them.