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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Why the fuck should anyone take your religions word for it that some dead jewish cunt from 2000 years ago was an aspect of god?
It goes without saying you have no proof that the man yeshua bin yosef was the single messiah god avatar sent to earth.. Nor does anyone who has previously been a part of your religion from the roman government have the authority to name a candidate as jesus therefore you and your religion is full of shit..
Try applying logic to this situatuon bro....
You people believe god came down to earth in a human avatar, performed a few small scale miricles to wow onlookers, threw his opinions around a lot and got executed as a result. Then 300 years later in a different country (italy) a religion was born infused with a mixture of pagan and jewish culture for contemparys of this man and we all must worship him as the prophecised jewish messiah that apparently 'died for our sins' whatever the fuck that means.......
Its just a load of hoo jah man.... Why buy into hype like that?
Human beings make mistakes... Human beings proclaimed Yeshua bin yosef as jesus christ and like suckers some of histories most influencial civilisations bought into it leaving our new modern era in spiritual shambles doused in lies and curruption..
How is christianity to be taken seriously?
When the man you worship's legacy is just another jewish philosophy thats validity is very questionable? When you tell me a religious military leader has appeared on earth and not really changed anything.. Did he not do his job?
Did evil really win out in the end and your wishful thinking tells you hes comming back to save your damned souls?
Oh and I sure as hell hope you dont think quoting the bible is going to re-inforce your belief's... I want logical arguments, not fruity little quotes saying the same shit you just said that you think will make it all seem more valid to me...
ok? ...
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Nos, by no means is christianity an invalid system... It is just a very misunderstood system.
God is nothing, christians made a big mistake when they interpreted "God" to be something instead of no-thing. That is probably the largest single problem in christianity. "Jesus" was the son who carried the teachings, that's why he's special... Through his teachings, many were to be liberated from hell. In other religions, the important prophets also were worshipped and had miraculous births. I believe much of the Jesus story is fabricated to make it seem more extraordinary, but the core is basically intact.
The holy spirit does not exist, that is one of the major biblical fallacies... I don't know if they thought 3 was a nice number or whatever, but the whole birth of the holy spirit thing with the fire and the speaking tongues is BS.
But yeah, about Jesus, his entire life is the main teaching. I don't know wtf people are on about with thinking otherwise, or hoping the actual "jesus" is going to come back. "He" has come back, is coming back right now, and will come back.
But back to the main misunderstanding... God... The term God does not describe anything with features, anything definable. I have no idea why christians think of god as a mystical being, the bible explains God quite well but I think people don't understand it or take it seriously. The term "God" indicates not something, but no-thing, a void in knowledge that somebody smart realized was impossible to fill and gave a name. God is beyond space and time, because space and time as we know them are illusions. God is everywhere and in all of us and everything, I don't know how people ignore that... "God" is every single thing the exists or doesn't exist. God is a piece of shit. I am 100% correct in saying that, but it doesn't describe what God is completely because you can't.
We don't see this because we don't experience reality properly. Lets take, for example, a table. We consider it a normal, average table. Something made of wood, put together for a purpose, its reference is table. But the reality is, the thing we are experiencing is not "table" it is umm.. It just is. You can't possibly understand that thing the table... It simply is. That is what could be considered God. That thing we can't understand about anything, but that is required for everything to exist. Me explaining in words has probably done nothing to help anyone's understanding.
To know God you have to know that which "is". If you think you know God, you are so far from knowing God you might as well kill yourself. You are probably thinking, "then howcome you are telling us what god is?" ... That is because I don't know God, but I do. I am at least not stupid enough to imagine up a figure to go with a term. The very essence of God is that we can't possibly know, the term God is more like the frame of a window, which encompasses a void, or a finger pointing at the moon. In thinking God is something, you mistake the window frame for the window, or the finger for the moon.
The bible says being with God is heaven... It also says God is everywhere. So when the fuck aren't we with God? The whole reason 99% of people are into christianity is to save their own asses and get to heaven. Yosef was not an idiot. You selfish, dellusional people have fallen into the safety net... You are wasting away in hell right now, full of false hope, suffering under the illusion that you are somehow seperate from God at this moment, which is utterly impossible. If there is one thing to admire about christian prophets, admire their wit. Yes, you do have to "die" to get to heaven. You also have to rise again. The only thing you have to do to get to heaven is believe in Jesus.. Probably a bad translation, more apt would be adopt the truth of Jesus. Then the illusion of not being with God dissapears, you'll be in heaven. But I bet most of you just think you believe in Jesus, you're still looking for something more. And fuck priests and pastors and all that, seeing them as guides will only lead you astray. I love them, but they lost the plot a long time ago.