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Originally Posted by Darkmanner
and also i have a huge problem with the way christianity seems to caste many aspects of human nature as sinful...people are naturally envious sometimes, the instinct to survive can cause people to bear false witness and steal, and sometimes people are shit parents so why should they be honoured in those cases?
can someone clear this up for me?
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I think I can answer this last bit, and probably the one before it, but I am very tired right now...
The things regarded as sinful have a purpose. I think some are not reliable and were included in the bible for some other reason, most likely with a selfish motive.
For the legit "sins," that is just Jesus or other prophets giving helpful advice. Lying, stealing, killing, deceiving, jealousy, greed, etc etc... All of these things lead to suffering for people, and not only the victim of the sin, also the perpetrator. Whether they know it or not, doing these things has a negative effect resulting in corruption and hell. Hell in the sense of a living hell, not some mystical fiery dimension. For example, greed. You might look at somebody rich, who got their money from being ruthless and greedy and think "damn, why does that dude have such a dope life, he has good cars and three huge houses and a hot wife." That is actually your fault that you feel that way, since that man is no happier than you are for being jealous. Getting things that you want does not equal happiness, that guy has sinned so he suffers. You have sinned and been jealous, not realizing his circumstances aren't that great... Therefore you suffer.
You know what I mean? Similar advice is given in many other religions.