This is different to a shitty movie, the context is not the same. You didn't just see the video on TV and go "that was shit." We are on a rap forum, and a member of the rap forum we are on has done something that deserves merit. He was just giving us the links so we could take a look. He didn't come on here like "LOL @ you wack nobodies, look, I got a video, I am awesome." He was cool about it.

So when I came in here and saw so many people giving him shit about it, I was just like whoa, what is wrong here. If you don't like the video or the song, cool, I am not trying to tell you you should like it. Club music isn't my thing either... You don't have to love the song, just give him a bit of credit for what he's achieved.

If you have come into this thread solely to mention that you hate mainstream style club music, therefore the song is shit in your eyes, therefore the video is also shit in your eyes, or anything like that, then you are either insecure or you're a jerk. Why would you say that? Of course, this is a public forum and you are entitled to your opinion... But really why? If you are saying negative shit, there can only be one thing you are trying to do and that is make him feel bad. And you wouldn't try to make him feel bad if you felt bad by doing it, so you feel good when making other people feel bad. Whether you do it consciously or not, I don't know, but you're doing it, even if you don't mean to. And yes, I realize I am doing the very same thing to you in a different context, and I am trying to make you feel bad about something you've done.

Look at what sir voltaire said... He expressed his honest opinion without being a complete cocksucker about it. Here are some others that did the same thing:







That isn't DR... That's appreciation while retaining your own opinion. In my post I was basically only referring to hades, soc and tzar... I think, there might be more though. How do you expect me to think you DON'T have ulterior motives in what you said when you guys were just saying stuff like "You the fat one?", "WTF wiggle dem toes?" and "You didn't even have nice flow." Tzar was just expressing his opinion badly, and calling phenom a sell out and shit. There are different reasons why he shouldn't do that.

Soc: To me it seemed like they were just giving him props for his moves and shit. Some of them might have liked the song, that's just because it probably was their taste in music.

And about the song being a sellout... The world runs on selling out. If you are getting mad at people for selling out, you should remember to get mad at basically everyone. Businessmen would do anything to get the top of the employment ladder, that is a form of "selling out." Food places entice you to buy their shit with colors and climates and pictures, instead of it just being about the taste of the food.

If a cook is a good cook, is he selling out by charging money for his food? If there is a stronger demand for a particular kind of dish, is he selling out if he favors and promotes that dish instead of other dishes that he or other customers like better? People are just trying to make a living in this crazy world. Don't forget to get mad at your priest next time you go to church. What nerve. Selling out and being PAID to teach people about Christianity.. If he was a real Christian he would do it for free. If phenom was a REAL rapper he would stay true to his underground roots and not make music that appeals to a wide audience. If you are going to blame anyone, blame the majority of people that likes something different to what you like, don't blame the man shaping his products into something that will make money.

I'm sure you have/want a job, so you can make money, so you can get things you want. Why sell out? Why feed the commercial and industrial machine? If you were really true to existence you would run away and live in a hermitage by yourself. THEN you wouldn't be a sell out. I'm just kidding, not really calling you a sellout... But do you see what I mean? Selling out IS bad, but you can't blame people for it. They were raised in that way, it's just how society works.

When you were growing up, did your mama say to you "Now son, if you ever discover something that you can do that a lot of people will pay for, a thing that will make you successful and wealthy, DON'T do it."?

blah blah money isnt everything etc success isnt measured by wealth. You know all that, but there's not much that can be done.. It's just how the world works.

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