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Originally Posted by Terumoto
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
I just don't think it makes sense... Why does it matter so much whether you think in your head "I don't believe in God, I am an Atheist," or whether you preach that to other people? | Considering yourself an Atheist in the first place goes against everything you're saying, because it makes a statement about you. | By saying you are Atheist, you are saying you do not believe in God/gods, therefore concerning yourself with God/gods. The exact thing you are saying Atheists should not be doing.
I think Atheists are allowed to argue against the existence of God/gods and impose their beliefs on others if they want to. | Them doing that does not mean that God exists, nor does it mean they are becoming more like a religion. Religion isn't imposing your beliefs onto others, that is a generalization that you are making. Your are associating that behavior with "religions" and then assuming that people against religion (Atheists) shouldn't be allowed to do that particular thing.
Religions don't all impose their beliefs on others. I don't think you have an accurate view of what religion actually is, and what Atheism actually is.
Atheists are not against religion, they simply don't believe in a God or gods. | Mahayana Buddhism is an Atheistic religion. Whatever the sect of Christianity is that thinks the bible is completely metaphorical, that is an Atheistic religion. For you to say that Atheists shouldn't spread their message or impose their beliefs onto others because it means they are becoming like a religion, that really isn't true.
By the way, it seems to me like you are overlooking the reality of what you are saying.
1. Atheists should not act like religious people do.
2. Any Atheist that does that is not a real Atheist.
3. To be a real Atheist, you must not behave like religious people do (by doing things like preaching your message, for example).
Well, you have just behaved like a religious person. That right there is 2v's first commandment of Atheism, which by your logic is contradictory. I don't agree with your logic, I think you are being obsessive about a detail that doesn't actually matter.
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Split by bars, on through the list of bolded shit, first bolded line:
I never said you can't preach it to other people in a means of sharing your opinion. I said you can't preach it like a fucking preacher because it's not a Religion.
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Oh, it makes a statement about me and makes me contradict myself. Whoaaaakay.
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Thanks for agreeing with me. Read early on and you'll see that I did say that concerning yourself with God/Gods makes you un-Atheist, and you had a problem with that. Now you're agreeing. Sad sad.
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Oh yeah! Definitely. Impose all you want, but make it your job to convince them and you're fucking with heads, concerning yourself with Gods, and NOT ATHEIST. you contradicted yourself.
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What? Preach? Well hell yeah Atheists shouldn't preach like a fucking preacher. It isn't their job, they shouldn't give a shit if they are true Atheists, they should just pity the believers. Maybe you're misunderstanding this, nevermind. You are.
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"Atheists isn't against religion, they simply don't believe in a God or Gods" I never said they were against religion. I said they don't believe in one. There's a HUGE difference, and we both know they don't believe in a God or Gods. Quit defining it buddy.
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As before stated, impose and share your beliefs, but don't make it a job. Don't make it a charity. Don't make it a life-altering thing, share your opinion and get the fuck out.
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You don't agree. 'nuff said. You're wrong. shut up.