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Originally Posted by 2v
All I said was a true Atheist doesn't give a fuck about Religion because he doesn't believe in God.
Is that not hard to understand? Does that not make sense to you ? An atheist doesn't sit there fighting God because he doesn't believe in it.
He shares his views but he does NOT ARGUE OVER A GOD, HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN ONE.
It's like you COMPLETELY passed over the thought, you just ignore it every time I bring it up, it's there, take it for what it is, and respond to that.
Just because I did not include that not every Religion has a God, I'm suddenly wrong. Ok. Dude. Like I said, shut up. Atheistic Religions are a whole-nother subject. We're on ATHEISM, and I haven't spewed one lie about it.
Atheists don't and can't preach what they believe in like a preacher in a church of God or Islam would because it is simply not a Religion. They can understand views and they will sit there and listen and give you theirs, but when they tell you that YOU are wrong about your beliefs in God when they absolutely know they don't believe in it because of reasons they cannot prove, they are not Atheist. They are Anti-God, they are fighting the God that they believe in, every Atheist has to know what a God is but they don't have to believe they exist.
Respond to this, and nothing else.
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I don't agree that Atheistic religions are a whole different story. A person can be a part of both Mayahana Buddhism and Atheism, and there would be nothing contradictory in that person's beliefs.
I'll fix your statement: "A true Atheist doesn't give a fuck about Theistic religions because he doesn't believe in God." There. I know that's what you meant, and I agree with it.
It's true that an Atheist doesn't sit there fighting God, because they wouldn't be fighting anything, since they believe that God doesn't exist. It makes no sense. I see what you are saying. However, I think that an Atheist opposing God isn't literally opposed to God, he is opposed to people having views that he believes to be incorrect and imposing those views on others as some religions (especially Theistic religions) tend to do.
To me, it doesn't look like preaching or not preaching has anything to do with Atheism or people being true Atheists. There are Atheism seminars where knowledgeable Atheists speak to audiences about Atheism. In reality that is similar to a Christian preacher preaching to a church mass.
I think I understand what you're talking about. Because of the nature of Atheism as something as equally unprovable (based on faith) as any religion, but lacking the qualities religions have that cause religious people to want to preach their views to save people, it would be foolish for Atheists to actively oppose people who believe in God/s (or in other words, be "anti-God"). Is that what you mean?
While I do agree with that, I still don't think it makes an Atheist any less real, because if you go by the definition "A person who does not believe in God/s," then technically they are still Atheist. They are stupid, idiotic, illogical Atheists, but Atheists nonetheless.
If you go by a definition like "A person who does not believe in God/s, sees belief in God/s as illogical, and behaves in a way that is congruent with this," then what you are saying about anybody that is anti-God not being a real Atheist is true.
... I think this is all figured out now. Is there anything you disagree with?