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Old 12-13-07, 05:06 AM   #58
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Originally Posted by Terumoto
I don't agree that Atheistic religions are a whole different story. A person can be a part of both Mayahana Buddhism and Atheism, and there would be nothing contradictory in that person's beliefs.

I'll fix your statement: "A true Atheist doesn't give a fuck about Theistic religions because he doesn't believe in God." There. I know that's what you meant, and I agree with it.

It's true that an Atheist doesn't sit there fighting God, because they wouldn't be fighting anything, since they believe that God doesn't exist. It makes no sense. I see what you are saying. However, I think that an Atheist opposing God isn't literally opposed to God, he is opposed to people having views that he believes to be incorrect and imposing those views on others as some religions (especially Theistic religions) tend to do.

To me, it doesn't look like preaching or not preaching has anything to do with Atheism or people being true Atheists. There are Atheism seminars where knowledgeable Atheists speak to audiences about Atheism. In reality that is similar to a Christian preacher preaching to a church mass.

I think I understand what you're talking about. Because of the nature of Atheism as something as equally unprovable (based on faith) as any religion, but lacking the qualities religions have that cause religious people to want to preach their views to save people, it would be foolish for Atheists to actively oppose people who believe in God/s (or in other words, be "anti-God"). Is that what you mean?

While I do agree with that, I still don't think it makes an Atheist any less real, because if you go by the definition "A person who does not believe in God/s," then technically they are still Atheist. They are stupid, idiotic, illogical Atheists, but Atheists nonetheless.

If you go by a definition like "A person who does not believe in God/s, sees belief in God/s as illogical, and behaves in a way that is congruent with this," then what you are saying about anybody that is anti-God not being a real Atheist is true.

... I think this is all figured out now. Is there anything you disagree with?



you nearly hit it dead on.

except the whole "Illogical Atheists" thing. Atheists consider themself more logical than the believers of Theistic Religions because they don't consider themselves sheep or foolish. For them to be stupid because they simply don't believe in God(s) is also wrong. It's stupid for them SPEAK OUT against other Religions. People believe stupid shit all the time, but to force your stupid ass beliefs unto others is Non-Atheist. But Atheists are smart and need to make a point, in which they cannot when talking against Religion, except for obvious shit like "Your whole Religion is an analogy" lol. So when they combat Religion by saying beliefs are stupid, they are wrong and not atheist. Just ... as I said before, Anti-God.

But now I'm curious Terumoto, what was it that made me confuse you ? Did I have a bad use of words or sentences? Wasn't thorough enough? Covered the wrong ground? All of the above? Please inform me so I know how to address you better next time. I'm glad I don't have to shower this post with "You're an idiot".
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