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Originally Posted by 2v
you nearly hit it dead on.
except the whole "Illogical Atheists" thing. Atheists consider themself more logical than the believers of Theistic Religions because they don't consider themselves sheep or foolish. For them to be stupid because they simply don't believe in God(s) is also wrong. It's stupid for them SPEAK OUT against other Religions. People believe stupid shit all the time, but to force your stupid ass beliefs unto others is Non-Atheist. But Atheists are smart and need to make a point, in which they cannot when talking against Religion, except for obvious shit like "Your whole Religion is an analogy" lol. So when they combat Religion by saying beliefs are stupid, they are wrong and not atheist. Just ... as I said before, Anti-God.
But now I'm curious Terumoto, what was it that made me confuse you ? Did I have a bad use of words or sentences? Wasn't thorough enough? Covered the wrong ground? All of the above? Please inform me so I know how to address you better next time. I'm glad I don't have to shower this post with "You're an idiot".
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Well, I think it was because to understand the point you were trying to get across, it was necessary for me to think about Atheism differently. It seemed like you had some weird requirement for people to be Atheist, which is why I kept saying that definition of it and that anyone who had that belief was Atheist no matter what their actions.
Also, the term "preaching" I saw as spreading a message to an audience and I didn't see it as a strictly religious thing.
When you said "but when they tell you that YOU are wrong about your beliefs in God when they absolutely know they don't believe in it because of reasons they cannot prove," that's when I saw the point of what you were saying; how it had to do with the actual dynamics of Atheism and the nature of the kind of beliefs an Atheist has.
Personally, I think your initial post didn't explain your point well enough, and said stuff that was unnecessary which made it even more unclear.. Then there was that whole sidetrack thing about "nothing" where everybody had different definitions of "existence."
And one more thing, like I said before I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but it isn't just me that missed the point in what you were saying. I think I am the first person to actually "get" your argument and agree with you. So, I suppose either everyone who read your posts needs to improve their comprehension skills, or you need to learn how to express yourself with a bit more clarity and eloquence.