anyways here's the thing, Rappers Delight was good, Rakim was fucking raw but he wasn't crazy lyrical, even Biggie wasn't that lyrical compared to how Pun and Big L did it, but they were all sick, but other dudes do that same style, they do the same kinda music but they suck at it. It's not that type of rap that sucks, it all depends who the rapper is. I've heard a few bay area groups that I like, because they're good. E-40 from what i've heard so far sucks, Mac Dre sucks, etc etc.. Thats how I feel it is