Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Logic The Goonie
Mimesis, it kind of seems like you're voting McCain over Obama because of one issue. And even then, the people who do get to earn extremely large sums of money SHOULD be taxed more, because they are living the "American dream".
Living in this country allowed them to reach those heights, so it's only right they pay it back in the end. If someone makes a million dollars and half of it gets taxed.....they are still fucking rich. If half of that being taxed means that underprivileged people can have more opportunities to reach heights similar to those being taxed, I don't see why that's a bad thing. It's like if your mom raised you to be a good kid and always made sure you had the best opportunities possible, and then she got old and needed help, wouldn't it be right to make sure the people who made it possible get something back?
Yes, there are those who take advantage of the system, I see it every day at work when people with food stamps buy $100 in junk food and every time financial aid checks come out and people I know go out and buy Jordans and new rims for their car. But at the same time, there are people out there, including me, who if it weren't for the extra opportunities given, wouldn't be able to do anything but work 2 jobs to barely make ends meet. To put that into perspective as well, it's not like because there are girls out there who will cheat on you and use you, that means that ALL of them do. When you start acting like that, resentment gets built up on both sides and nobody goes anywhere. Get me?
Just my 2 cents.
|
I'm voting for McCain for a few reasons. The strongest belief I have in this election is that taxes shouldn't be as high as Obama wants to make them. I'm a firm believer in capitalism, and Obama's tax policies are coming close to bordering socialist. If Obama said he wouldn't raise taxes to outrageous levels I'd definitely consider voting for him.
Dude, I already explained this on the second page. I'm not talking about the top 1-3% of this population in terms of income. I'm talking about middle class people. Of course if you're making $50 million a year and the government takes half you should still be fine (though that's not always the case, but if you can't manage yourself with that much money, you're pretty much an idiot), but that's not the income bracket I'm talking about or arguing for.
I don't believe if you work hard to open a business or do something innovative that you should be required to give back half of your income. If you're already creating jobs and generating capital, doesn't that provide the "American dream" to other people? If I open a successful business and hire you, aren't you better off then if I hadn't opened a business and hadn't hired you? What's a person's motivation to put in the required work to open a business or do something innovative, create jobs, and generate capital if the government is going to take away half of it and give it to people who don't necessarily deserve it? That's why socialism will always fail. There's no motivation to work hard.
Your analogy about a person's mom isn't accurate and doesn't sum up this situation. I'd present a counter analogy but I can't think of one that covers everything I'm saying. It's just your analogy fails to factor in the good people who start businesses are already doing, both for the economy and for other people. It's not like the country gave me a bunch of opportunities and I turned that into a good thing for just me. The people who I'm talking about have given back to the country and continue to give back to the country everyday (via jobs, goods and services, taxes that they're already required to pay, etc.).
I get what you're saying and I respect the hell out of you for doing what you're doing, and I wish you the best of luck. I just can't support raising taxes very high, and that's the main reason I'm not voting for Obama.