lmao you also have to drink plenty of water u know i drink a gallon of water usually or try to through out the day..
jacked has creatine monohydrate and plus jack3d had ALL natarual ingredients in it so try it if you still lift im positive you'll like it
even read the reviews on it..
http://www.jack-3d.com/reviews
one guy said he built 40 ibs of muscle using this product in one month
obviously on this and a protein aswell.