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Old 09-10-03, 06:35 AM   #9
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Originally posted by Jes


this entire statement makes you a hypocrit. First off you're bad mouthing America and then you say "everyone" is citizens of the world??? Great display of humanity.

I understand there are those who don't like our government and things we done in the past, and in most instances I agree. My only problem with your statement, is that you're talking about stuff you don't seem to know much about. The UN would not exit if it weren't for America, and some countries wouldn't even be represented. Rascism spans the world not just America. And if I remember correctly Australia houses the most hate groups, you guys. Yes there are arrogant people claiming America is great and the best or what have you, but they do not represent the entire country. Any proud person would say their country is the best, at least for them. I'm pretty sure your country has at least one or two less fortunate? OR is Austrailia that perfect?


Now Jes.. First off, I must assume you didnt bother to read my second post in this threa, I stated I don't believe Australia to be any better than any other Country...I don't see anywhere that I say Australia is perfect.. and there is only one thing I hate more than bullshit arguments, its people putting words in my mouth.
As for your comments on the UN, well.. you are almost correct on one account..

'The name "United Nations", coined by United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt, was first used in the "Declaration by United Nations" of 1 January 1942.

However, this doesnt, at least in my book, mean that the American Government controls nor dictates the decisions made by the UN Nations. It was created so that Countries could work together toward-for one, global peace.. among many other issues. The decision making process is very clear within the UN. Within each of the seperate councils set up within the UN there are Nation members who hold a vote. With the recent events in Iraq it was the Security Council that held the responsibility.

'The UN Charter gives the Security Council primary responsibility for maintaining international peace and security. The Council may convene at any time, whenever peace is threatened. Under the Charter, all Member States are obligated to carry out the Council's decisions.
There are 15 Council members. Five of these — China, France, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States — are permanent members. The other 10 are elected by the General Assembly for two-year terms. Member States are discussing making changes in Council membership and working to reflect today's political and economic realities.
Decisions of the Council require nine yes votes. Except in votes on procedural questions, a decision cannot be taken if there is a no vote, or veto, by a permanent member.'

This being said, can you imagine Roosevelts reaction to President Bush and his total lack of respect towards the UN's decision on this subject? It makes it all the worse in my books, that the UN, an International Co-ordination founded by an American President is so totally dis-regarded by President Bush. And don't go off saying that this was the actions of one man (Bush) because I saw plenty of discussions online on forums just like these where Americans were hating on the French because they wouldnt yeild on the decision.
And yes, the minority don't speak for the majority, as is life... However, I was addressing people on this forum, whose attitudes were pompous and arrogant regarding America and its supposed might.
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