I have though ODB was wack from the beginning...not because it's personal or anything...but I never liked his style...he don't even rhyme half the time...he stays sayin' stupid shit that don't make since...at least if you gonna talk about stupid shit make it sound good like Ghostface doez...I mean if ODB got some flow then he'd be aiiight...but how you gonna be a rapper when you ain't rappin'...you gotta rhyme to rap...cause that's what rap is...it's a form of rhyming poetry...and ODB just says random stupidity...hopefully now that he joined ROC he might get some Just Blaze or Kanye West production...not as good as the old RZA was but it's still better than Neptune'z bullshit...