to underground heads he is well know but out side of us people dont know him. if he died he wouldnt make MTV news. he is underground. if had a video on MTV i guarntee 90% of the people would think he was a new artist

comercial doesnt mean pop. emeinem, jay-z, nas, mos def, talib, rakim, gangstarr, all of them are comercial but that doesnt make them pop.

people seem to think that just because someone is on MTV that they are pop and thats just ignorant