Yeah Dezyir, just cos someone is commercial doesnt mean shit, if theyre good rappers, than theyre good rappers... when nelly drops a stupid song(s) where he drops a bunch of cheap punchlines and shouts "ohhhh!" in the background thats on a totally different level to eminem's complex and meaningful lyrics... i agree stupid songs like "my name is" and "without me" suck but if u dont lyk those (which includes me) just go download one of his more hardcore songs from his album, he has plenty.. on the other hand, if anyone finds a hardocre, raw, or lyrically genius nelly song, plz give me the link