how can you say sage didn't innovate on eminem's ideas you say you much rather listen to any of sage's albums than infinite but infinite was made in a basement ten years ago. When most underground emcees were making gangsta rap and still talkin guns. Eminem did innovate as far as punchline lyric based hip hop over the mainstream guns and money.



eminem's battle against juice was the final round of the lyricolympics in juice's hometown. I've heard that battle a million times and i'd say eminem came alot nicer as far as lyrically. The only thing wak about eminem battles is that he doesn't freestyle 90% of it. But the fact that he made it to the finals of the lyric olympics long before the pop icon he is now should give him all the battle and underground credibility a rapper could have.


Also if you notice eminem doesn't "call out" anyone. he replies to about 1 in 50 diss tracks made about him and only when there's enough popular interest in the diss on him that he feels obligated. Eminem has gotten to a level in his career where replying to disses steals from his artisitic goals. He's trying to prove himself as more than a fad and show he has the talent to provide lasting power. Canibus has always struggled to become a mainstream artist his albums were just too shitty for him to make it. So y'all still like him basically based solely on the fact he wasn't creative enough to make it?