Originally Posted by 2v

dude, fuck you, what's our obligation to them?

We helped them simply by merking Saddam.

so we're training their soldiers, and we gave them democracy, but they assassinate all their fucking leaders, and they're assassinating OUR soldiers, yet you don't think the stupid thing to do is pull out? Why? To risk the Muslims having Muslim country?

Yes we caused a mess, but all America has to do is open up relations with Iran and tell them not to fucking take over Iraq, no where else is a threat to Iraq and if Iraq has insurgents everywhere and if they really wanted a democracy then they would have it, but they don't, their people don't, mentally they are not ready for such a bullshit government system.

We're talking people that are comparable to 1600 Christians, in modern day, and you think we're helping? No, we're giving the countries surrounding Iraq a reason to kill us and we're giving Iraq a central bank, an easy-to-flaw government and leaving them right next to a patch of Muslim countries that will have their fucking head without us being around there to protect Little U.S.

so shut the fuck up.. we need to pull out and let what happens happen.