Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Do you think god is supposed to be some little man sitting on a cloud with a 'priest in trouble' alert going off?

Here is a small essay I wrote up a week ago explaining god.
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When we think of the universe, what usually comes to mind is the endless void of space that surrounds us. But is it really endless?

Science teaches us that the universe is infact slowly spreading out and growing bigger. This is the reason for the 'Big Bang' theory, where if we were to trace back to the beginning of the universe all matter that has made progress in spreading out would ofcourse be condensed back into its origional form. Meaning that it had to start somewhere.

But the question is, what exactly was there BEFORE the condensed matter all of a sudden exploded and created this big bang? And why exactly did it happen?

These questions, are essentually unanswerable. However there are feasable theorys that explain possibilitys as to how this all works. There is a known theory that the universe works on cycles, creating a loop effect where all matter begins at the highest extremity of condensation, meaning ALL matter is squashed into a tiny point, then explodes and expands as the universe is born, and finally reaches an apex where, following a fundemental rule in physics "Everything that goes up, must come down" it slowly begins to condense again untill it reaches the beginning of a new cycle and starts off with a new big bang. To give a clearer explenation, here is a diagram:


These cycles create a reality that explains the eternal or infinite nature of the universe. However, one might then come to the straight up question of "why?". Why is there this reality? Why if the matter can reach such a point of complete condensation, does it not just remain in this state? Why does all this even exist in the first place?

Thats where our good ol' buddy god comes in. Now most philosophers look at god as being an external being that created the universe and exists beyond the limits of space and time. Which is true. To an extent. However this does not explain a damn thing.. Because, if god existed outside the universe, why exactly would he have a need to create it in the first place? This is where it gets very interesting.

My conclusion, is that 'God' is infact THE universe itself. Which may sound perplexing at first, however if you follow the evidence and understand the reason, its actually a very feasable conclusion. The universe essentually exists as the imaginative build-up inside THE mind of god. This not only co-insides with the universal theorys, but it also completes them.

Look at the universe in terms we can understand, humans are said to be created in god's image. The birth of a human concience begins ofcourse in a very simplistic stage, it can obviously be related to a buildup or 'expanse' of cell's generating a brain in its most simple form. Like, before there was nothing, now there is existance.

In this same way, the mind of god is born at the beginning of the universal cycle and everything in it begins to expand first at an extreme rate, then as time goes on it slows down and at a certain point, like that of humans, it slowly begins to deteriorate and condense back down untill it inevidibly dies. This, in effect, answers the 'why?' of our universe.

We exist within a concieved reality inside the transendant imagination of god himself. The universe is, for lack of a better description, God.

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Now this essay ONLY scratches the surface. I have a vast amount of writings and revelations on time, the mechanics of the universe, metaphysics and a load of related stuff I've written.. But without making you read tons of stuff, this is probably all you need to know.

Everything happens for a reason. Knowledge is not to be created, it is to be unlocked. If someone was to kill a priest and a nun, know it would have happened for a distinct reason and the next occurance in that time field happens due to this first occurance. Cause and effect.

If a little girl is raped. She might grow up to become a doctor specialising in helping other young girls who are going through what she went through as a child. Yet there are unlimited possibilitys of reason and conclusions.

Everyone is not created equal. Because everyone has a different journey through life set out for them. Life is about learning and experience taken in in preperation for the afterlife. The soul is immortal, our physical mass is like training wheels, or pre school for our concience. You may not believe in god, but you do believe in the universe. And science teaches us god can be related to a perfect supercomputer...(call it a mac if you really must)....

But the idea is, that everything works in harmony throughout this world because everything is set out in a number of laws. Each occurance is scripted, but (having eaten from the tree of knowledge, or realistically, having evolved into a brain so complex we understand right from wrong) the way we choose to respond to each occurance in our lives determines the entire future of occurances.

Its really simple when you think about it. Life is just one big mathamatical equasion....

Now I could go on and on and on forever about every single reason for my conclusions and bringing up large amounts of other theorys, but I have to do a shit.... So BRB

Originally Posted by Limited Edition

This man is a fucking genious.


I have never thought of God actually being the universe though.


Lmfao if Nos made an entire new religion...

Originally Posted by Limited Edition

Hey I thought you were gonna post a chunk of that B.I.B.L.E song's lyrics..?

Unless I missed it. =\

Originally Posted by A Legendary MC known as Deep Blue

The disciples saw through Paul’s thin disguise.
And recalled that he persecuted them, and frequently told lies (Acts 9:26).//
All, that is except Barnabus (Refer to Gospel of Barnabas Vol. I, II, III) who was known to comforting all.
And wanted the disciples to openly accept Paul. //
Though they reject Paul – it ain’t over yet ya’ll.
Paul got to Barna’s soft side and set the plan forward.//
Barnabus and Paul had a few things parallel.
For example both were once Jewish Students of Gamaliel.//
Paul lied to ‘Barn’ often, who relayed it to the men.
The Disciples trusted Barn, just like that, Paul’s in! (Acts 9:28-29).//
They left Paul alone when his ass got stoned.
He took it as a wake-up call and went home. //
Treated the wounds to his dome and laid up two years.
Barnabus called Paul to help spread the word through the new year.//
Paul was exctatic that Barna, came to reach him. He fooled Barnabus and started to reverse Jesus’ teachings (10:5-6).//
They went against Jesus and spread Pauls word day and night.
The First “Christian”s also known as the first “anti-Christ’s” (Reverse the “tian” and you can easily spell “anti”.//
Paul never met Jesus. He deceived us that he’d Ride with him.
Don’t forget all this time, Paul had the devil inside of him.//
He ignored Jesus’ teachings, and preached what he liked.
The first Christians were Gentiles and Judahites (jews)//
The Roman’s didn’t like that they were always in the light.
After they got stoned, Disciples ran for their life. Acts 7:59)//
Some of them fled to a spot called ‘Antioch’.
They tried showing what they got, but they still got mocked.//
Still got rocked. And some of the people still dissed them.
They knew they were fakes, and nick-named them Christians (Acts 11:26).//
They were tired of getting played and went to Jerusalem for aid.
The other Disciples in Rome, were still bruised up for days.//
They Combined at Jerusalem, to avert getting hurt.
They met up with B and Paul started the Christian Church. (Acts 11:25-26)//
Paul took Jesus’ books, and changed ‘em to his wishes, B.
And that’s how the church became Paul’s ministrty.//
They Barn and Paul packed their bags and hit the streets.
Accompanied by John Mark, they head for Greece.//
John, was left as the head of the disciples.
And stayed back with Peter, to be mindful of rivals.//
Barn and Paul were famous for curing the Lystran cripple.
The Pagans called them “Gods” and their words made ripples. (Acts 14:11-12)//
And as time trickled, Paul flipped the script on Barnabus.
He took seinority and oftenly became fond of it.//
As Barn’s control weakened –
Paul just started making up shît, and freestyling the teachings.( 1 Corinthians 15:1 - and - 2 Corinthians 11:17)//
By now Barns control completely fell through.
Paul was now selling you “you’ll only be saved by what I tell you”.( 1 Corinthians 15:2)//
He was saying ‘If you can’t recall the teachings of Paul…
…Then you’re just as good as never believing at all’//
Can you believe the balls? He said he was reppin’ Jesus’ lessons…
But fooled you to think his misdirection was progression.//
Look at all he put forward as a fraud.
Not even Jesus said that. - He brought the word of God.//
He warped all of the answers, yall.
So to this day, you live and die and abide by the word of Paul.//
He NEVER met Jesus. The situation worsens.
ALL of Paul’s teachings of Jesus are Third Person( 1 Corinthians 15:3-4.)//
He was putting on a front, like him and Jesus were best-of-friends.
But his knowledge of Jesus came from the Old Testament.//
I know a lot of “christians” ain’t about to be fond of me.
But Pauls stories are saturated with Greek Mythology.//
Before you diss me, follow me. Now listen to the truth:
The Jews called him Yahweh but the Greeks Called him Zeus.//
Don’t try to think - that I’m telling this my way.
They combined “Zeus” and “Yahweh” and called dude Jahweh.//
Peep the evolution of proof, the truth:
They combined Zeus and Jah, and called him “Jazues”.//
His real name is Yashua, but Paul wants to deceive us.
He lied once again and just called him “Jesus”.//
Barn knew the real deal and wanted to stay true.
Paul wanted to change all, and just made it up new.//
Paul ignored Barn. Barn knew what he’s up to.
They supported different views, and so the division grew (Acts 15:2)//
Barn confronted Paul and said ‘I know you’re trying to play me’.
They officially split in 49 A.D.(acts 15:36-40)//
Barn rolled with John Mark, who was Barn’s nephew.
Barn’s birthplace Cypress, is where they stepped to.//
Barn dissed the traitor the Jesus Hater.
Mark ran into Paul, about ten years later(Colossians 4:10).//
Now with Barnabus out of the picture…
Paul was free, to go on his mission of distortion however he pleased.//
Paul combined with old enemies – like Peter.
He told him ‘I’ll change the laws, so the Romans don’t beat ‘ya’//
Mark, Peter and Paul, were monsterous toxin.
Led by Paul, they pushed in his doctrine (Romans 16:20-21)//
The People heard the talk yet, all from Paul’s neck.
There was only his version, yo they couldn’t cross-check.//


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Originally Posted by Apexx

Yeah, you didn't tell me where you wanted to post it. Here's a chunk. This is the piece where it discusses how Paul decieved everyone that he was really a desciple AND where he pubically changed the name of the man you call "Jesus". This is 92 bars of it from years ago, so my rhyme scheme was more basic back then, but enjoy:

Originally Posted by Limited Edition

Thats a huge chunk lmfao...

Read some of it...good stuff. Would be a great track...

Too bad your views changed.

Originally Posted by Apexx

Nah, thy didnt' change. The point of that track was that the bible contradicts it self and then I collected thme all and organized them in chronological order and in rhyme. My point of view is still the same since it's facts, lol. But thanks for the compliment.

Originally Posted by Limited Edition

So what the hell is the conclusion to this two day debate..?

Lmfao.

Originally Posted by Apexx

lmao, not really: http://www.harvardhouse.com/Law_of_Decay_pantheism.htm

Originally Posted by Apexx

That's what I'm still asking and now people finally see it. Notice no one's coming in here shouting and proclaiming anymore yet the thread keeps getting ore views?




BTW Nos, once again, you're not original

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Actually my ideas go a lot further than whats written there..

If you had of discussed any of what I posted, I would of continued. This is why I called ignorance.