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Old 06-11-05, 12:09 AM   #1
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Big Pun: No Respect

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i been thought he was nice cuz im from the Bronx but
i coped this Best of Pun wit like 40 tracks from all three albums and freestyles
and im convinced he woulda been the illest ever
I cant believe i dont hear as much about him as othr dead rappers
he was lyrically nastier than any rapper died, or alive
dont believe me? listen to his 1st album or a Best of and see if he dont convince u
rhymed sorta like eminem but faster and more knowledgable
woulda ripped 50 an new ass hole
proof that multis are sick when done right
yet i ask people if they liked him, they be like, he AIIGHT..
dats crazy, who was lyrically better than him ?
i wanna hear this
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Old 06-11-05, 12:17 AM   #2
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Big Pun's voice was mad annoying

Nas,JAy-Z,and Eminem were lyrically better than him.I dun find that he raps like eminem...I find he raps like biggie except faster.When I first heard the song beware...I was blown away by his skill.I agree that he doesn't get enough recognition.He was lyrically better than Pac and BIG.But he was a lil boring.The subject matter wasn't sumtin as enticing as someone,for,let's say PAC.It was tough to relate to his music.
And the way he rap so fast it was tough to understand wat he was sayin.U gotta listen to his shit over and over and over.......
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Old 06-11-05, 12:23 AM   #3
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and thats why it never got tired
cuz u can hear it agin and find some new shit
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Old 06-12-05, 02:45 PM   #4
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Why hasn't anyone else posted in this thread.

Neways....ifyou like that...well that's you.But some words that he says seems undecodeable.Like Nas illmatic..he raps fast and you can listen to it over and over to get sumtin new out of it and none of it was undecodeable.But Pun;s pronounciation was terrible.
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Old 06-12-05, 02:53 PM   #5
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yea he was nice man but really more biggie and tupac woulda lyrically murdered pun im sayin pun is nasty but not way better then pac or big or not even big L but he is nasty
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Old 06-12-05, 03:12 PM   #6
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how long have you been listening to rap?
Pac was hardly lyrical, he had messages
Biggie was lyrcal AT TIMES!!!
Big L was lyrical most of the time
Pun was super lyrical all day
the only way you could consider Pun's subject matter limited would be becuse his carrer was only really one album. Yeaaaah baby was posthumous, and Endangerd Species was old songs with like 5 new ones
Capital Punishment dealt with everything!!!
did you listen to it?
Violence, pushing, sex and even philosophy. Pun spit about shit deeper than pac!
dont belive it?
listen to the fuccin music.
that shit pisses me off when niggas act like pun was wack
his pronunciation was better than any ohter rapper to date
i dare you to say his first verse on Twinz 98' for ther first time without fuccin up
Pun is the most slept on rapper ever, even with the respect he gets now
thats why i swear ya never heard of him when you rank him anything other than #1
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Old 06-12-05, 03:22 PM   #7
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Pun was lyrically better than PAc by far.But he was not deeper.

Capiatl Punishment did not deal with real life issues.Nobody here has ever said Pun is whack so wtf u talkin bout.Nobody knows whether or not if he hadn't died that his subject matter wouldn't be limited.His pronounication was terribe.I could barely understand some words he said.It may be his spanish accent though.I would not rank Pun #1.He surely has to be in the top 10 or maybe even top 5.But not the best.His music,unlike someone like NAs,didn't paint a picture that'd stay with you long after the album is done.He was good....but not the best.
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Old 06-12-05, 03:23 PM   #8
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yeah pac and big weren't all that lyrical.
Pun is nice but he aint the best.
Nas is actually the greatest if you listen closely to his lyrics.
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Old 06-12-05, 03:38 PM   #9
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I completely agree...

Pun=godly, Bx stand up werd...you from bx i didnt know

but yea hes a lyrical mastermind it gets me mad when people underate him so much...who the fuck said pac and big was better lyrically? should get bitch slapped really...

Pun>most of the so called best rappers

but yea i agree wit indeph he didnt get to be better then Nas...
Only people i would consider better then Pun is Rakim, Nas, Old Eminem, Canibus...

In my opinion the best lyrical dude ever is Canibus straight up...
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Old 06-12-05, 03:42 PM   #10
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I completely agree...

Pun=godly, Bx stand up werd...you from bx i didnt know

but yea hes a lyrical mastermind it gets me mad when people underate him so much...who the fuck said pac and big was better lyrically? should get bitch slapped really...

Pun>most of the so called best rappers

but yea i agree wit indeph he didnt get to be better then Nas...
Only people i would consider better then Pun is Rakim, Nas, Old Eminem, Canibus...

In my opinion the best lyrical dude ever is Canibus straight up...
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Nobody said Pac and Big were better lyrically.Rakim, Nas, Old Eminem, Canibus are definetly better than PUn.Only problem with canibus is that his music doesn't have the dope production.But canibus is a genuis when it comes to lyrics.Just look at my av.I'm rep the dude.lol.
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Old 06-12-05, 04:03 PM   #11
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His production aint that bad...i like most of his beats...mainly cuz the lyrics go good with them i dont care about all the dre flashy beats...if it has a rhythm and no weird ass noises like alien sounds and none of that then its good...
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Old 06-12-05, 04:09 PM   #12
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His production aint that bad...i like most of his beats...mainly cuz the lyrics go good with them i dont care about all the dre flashy beats...if it has a rhythm and no weird ass noises like alien sounds and none of that then its good...



^^^Agreed.But ya gotta admit, canibus lyrics over dre's beat would be the best thing ever.
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Old 06-12-05, 04:32 PM   #13
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yo, if you cant understand pun, you anint a hip hop head. there are maybe 3 lines of his that you coud get stumped on, but after that, you must be stupid. Nas is illmatic, thats why he got that album name, but i dont think Nas is better. theyr about equal. if you dont think capital punishment paints a picture after the songs are over, you must just be livin off the beats. Pac was deep, thats why ya dick ride him, but pun was deeper.
if you from NY, youd feel me, but if you more south, west or north you probly confused.
what did pac talk about?
death
bitches
life
weed
more death
and brenda's offspring
dont come with that shit
listen to these songs and you tell me
"capital punishment"
"boomerang"
"super lyrical"
"100%"
"firewater"
"YOU CAME UP"!!!!
even on "how we roll" that nigga was deeper than oceans
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Old 06-12-05, 11:26 PM   #14
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Pun had nice multi's but he wasnt that good in my opinion, canibus murdered him in that collab they did with NORE and cam.
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Old 06-13-05, 11:45 AM   #15
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big pun=one of the best, in my opinion. i agree with k-trini though, his voice does get mad annoying when you listen to him so many times
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