So, on FX...there is a new show called Black and White.

Basically these people get made up..and switch races, and at the end of the day..talk about there different experiences.

Now, before this show....I had a decent and reasonable idea, that racism isn't as much of an issue, as people make it. IT IS an issue, especially in different parts of america, and the world as well....But I do think and always have thought it's not as bad as a lot of people say. I've seen racisim first hand, especially in the south...so don't come in here with a closed fuckin mind, and start bitchin me out when you didn't even read everything.

but here is the scoop. Minorities claim to experience racism in every day life, even if it's subtle. They also make fun of white folks, for speaking properly and clearly, walking fast, wearing suits, and shit like that. They also make fun of a black person who does those things, but it's considered acting "white". Now, to be completely honest...thats not acting white, white people don't act like that. Those actions and mannerisms are sacrafices we force ourselves to make, in order to be employed.
Do you honestly think we go home and act like that?
There is a huge issue with minorities.....blacks and mexicans especially, and them being un-employed. The problem is, most un-employed mexicans don't speak english very well. And let's talk about blacks, By the way, this is a general statement but,
i want to know how many less white people would have jobs, if we all went in, wore doo rags, chains, baggy ass clothes, talked in a mixture of southern drawl and ebonics, and everything. This is a business world, or a business country i should say. Just about every business works with people, the best way to sell anything, is to make people feel comfortable. Look at all the elements you, as african americans...have going against you. The way you talk, your mannerisms, RAP....people hear rap, and all they hear 95% of the time is african americans angry about something, they see guys talking about killing eachother, that dress and have the same mannerisms you do on the street. How is that supposed to make anyone feel comfortable? People want someone that they don't think is going to shoot them in the face...not very many people are threatened by the african american who acts and dresses.."white".....now, you can call it racism that the average person stereotypes the average black man because you guys look like the same self proclaimed thugs that they have on t.v....but it's not just because you are black, if it's because of you being black at all. If white people talked and dressed the same way you did(a lot do, and from what i've seen...struggle horribly to find work) im willing to bet the white to minority unemployment ratio would be a lot closer to being even....

this show, black and white...sort of proves the things i'm saying...the white man who is turned to a black man, doesn't experience anything different, or so he says. He also claims the black man who is turned white, is looking for examples of racism. Because when he was black, when bad things would happen, it was subtle racism...when he was white..bad things still happened, but good things happened to him just like when he was black..but he blamed it on being white. I personally see this all the time...minorities tend to assume that something is meant differently than it is intended to be meant. This obviously isn't always the case, and a lot of times..it isn't the case at all..because racism is a live and well, i just don't think people are realistic about it. Bad shit happens to me all the time, i get treated like shit, people ignore me, and everyone else...people are assholes to everyone, but whites arn't really use to being treated differently for there skin color, where as blacks have a history of it, and i feel like unless everyone treats them as good as they possibly can, there going to blame everything on racism...when it's just someone being an asshole, regardless of anything exterior....

like shihan says...

"I'm sick of people denying racism still exists, but i'm tired of us still using it as an excuse"

I just want to know everyones opinion, on the show, what it portrays..how accurate you think it really is, and how accurate you think my statement is...
By the way, i don't want you to tell me that what i'm saying basically means that minorities arn't hired or treated the same because of cultural differences. The culture you have, and just about everyone in america has, is culture that is adopted. The way african americans speak, isn't because your african. It's because you were un-educated to english language, and learned to speak the way the southerners did. It's something you've embraced from the beginning of the slave days. White people all have some kind of culture, a lot of the times thats put out of site and out of mind..to hold a job.

Maybe thats why saul williams says our..."culture, is that of a schizophrenic vulture"
but either way, it's the truth

Opinions?

By the way, this isn't a beef thread, I don't want you to even respond, unless it's going to be an educated, open minded, opinion.....Because thats exactly what I have presented to you.

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Well all I'm going to say, because my post could be 5 times longer then yours against it is that the white people on that show are totally ignorant. They do shit to try and please the black people and try to show that they're being embraced when in fact they should be trying to show that they are accepted. Well, the adults are ignorant, the girl is pretty ill.

But then again I only saw one episode. *shrugs*

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Yeah, I think theres been like 3 or 4...i've seen 2 of them. I would def agree with you that the adults are ignorant, however...there ignorance doesn't alleviate the idea that some things that are shown in that show, prove my idea that some black people..or minorities...misconstrue people being assholes as an act of racism. I think a big reason, on the western part of america, that people are seen as racist. Because everyone is so afraid of saying the wrong thing, or doing the wrong thing, or whatever. I don't like the idea that if i get in a fight with a black person, because we just don't like eachother...could be considered a hate crime. And that sort of shit happens all the time, i hear black people say all the time...."it's cause i'm black right?" it actually happened when i first moved to eugene, i asked this kid if he played basketball, cause i wanted someone to go to the gym with...and he immediately took that as i said it cause he was black....when in reality...i said it because he was in my room, listening to music, talkin to me, and i wanted to know if he played so I could go the gym with someone. He coulda been fuckin green, and as long as i knew he wasn't about to die...i woulda asked him the same thing...another time i was trying to explain something to a different dude, and i said..."yeah, remember that one black dude?" and that got taken as racist...."oh why you gotta point him out because he was black?".....seriously? maybe it's because thats how it's easy to remember him, and get others to remember him..this is oregon, and as sad as it may be, black people stick out..because they are rare.just like white people with
rare and easily noticable features.... if he had one leg, blonde hair, blue eyes, and acne...i would have said...hey..remember that dude with one leg?....and those are just two of many examples...


once again..racism does exist...i just don't think it's as popular as some people make it out to be...


and as far as other people asside from that show, trying to embrace black people, instead of showing them they are accepted.

Why is that a bad thing? or why does that make someone ignorant?
Maybe they want to show someone they are accepted, but they don't know how to do that without intentionally going out of there way to prove they embrace them, without offending them. I think one of the problems that keep the idea of racism alive...is a lot of people tend to be over bearing when it comes to proving a point, and so it's easy to fuckin tell when there trying to prove something...and not being racist, is something that is probably a big deal to them....it actually annoys the shit out of me...maybe it's in a whites nature to be paranoid that nobody believes them, or maybe thats how everyone is..i don't really know.
That's a form of ignorance i suppose, but i don't see how anyone could be upset with that

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i didnt read any of the previous posts......but im going to speak on the subject anyway...lmao.

i've heard that the show is dope......but i havent had the chance to peep it yet. im looking forward to seein' it soon......i think.

no.......this is not a suicide free-post bombing........i swear on allah and muhammad. lol...j/p.


s.v.

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R.I.P. Jonathan "ONE MAN BAND/TERUMOTO" Nigro. Goodbye brother. God bless the dead. One love.

damn...

...whats upper big vish??? i heard that that black and white show is sick though, but whatever...

...on a serious side note, i never thought that i'd see the day that you werent a crhymie.......or a legend. no funk though, your fam regardless, word brutha.

but.........im expecting you to check in into the crhyme forum at any moment for repentance. lol.

hollar at ya boy my man.


s.v., big bad c.s.

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R.I.P. Jonathan "ONE MAN BAND/TERUMOTO" Nigro. Goodbye brother. God bless the dead. One love.

What time does this show actually come on? I always catch it at weird times.

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yeah, it's an interesting show

what would have been more interesting..is if they did that shit in mississippi...or louisianna or some shit like that...

i went there (mississippi) my freshman year, and i've never seen so many bigots. Thats how I know racism is definately alive...i honestly felt nervous just not feeling the same way as they did. I've never been so quiet, and so ashamed of my silence..in my entire life

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Around here it's on at 10...on wednsdays i think..i try and make it a point to watch it, but i had finals this last week, and studied all week before that.


and whats up s.v
Yeah, i went on a tangent cause nobody was giving me any feedback on anything....and basically said fuck you to everyone in there...and I told atticus to take me out of the legends because It didn't mean shit to me, and all i wanted was feedback to my work.....but i def apologized...and I don't think i'll be comin back to c.s. but...yall are family too...i don't know how many times you've left feedback, and upped my shit for me....i def appreciate that from you.

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*cough, cough.*


s.v.

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R.I.P. Jonathan "ONE MAN BAND/TERUMOTO" Nigro. Goodbye brother. God bless the dead. One love.

im hurt brutha.....im hurt.

but.....the team is always here for you. just remember that. your my folks brutha.......hollar when you need me or the real fam.


s.v.

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^^^word.........word.


s.v. kinfolk

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R.I.P. Jonathan "ONE MAN BAND/TERUMOTO" Nigro. Goodbye brother. God bless the dead. One love.

I'm not even gonna get started.... but yeah the show is ok. Kind of potentially angering tho.

Nobody wants to get started...

Why is this so taboo, i really don't get it. I want hard cold, evidence that what I'm saying is innacurate, I have a shit load of evidence that it is accurate, thats why i left it open for discussion....i want people to come in here who disagree, or can elaborate on something i've said, and can explain exactly why...otherwise it's pointless

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"watch what you watchin...fox keeps feedin' us toxin's..stop sleepin' start thinkin outside of the box and unplug from the matrix doctrine....but watch what you say cause big brother is watchin" - nas - sly fox

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