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04-02-07, 11:48 AM | #1 | ||||||
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earlier today i was havin a discussion with my mama and uncle about God and all that
and I was tryin to ask them really really hard questions that be leavin christians stumped, but i couldnt think of any right on spot. i did ask a few though my uncle had said that God knows everything including the future so i said why did he let Adam eat the forbidden fruit then? and he respondedbecause man have free will. so I said but if Adam didnt eat the fruit then there wouldnt have been sin in the world If God had the chance to stop sin, and sin is evil, why didnt he do it? and all he said was.. "because God gives man free will" so i was like, if he's God and he wants people to be good then why would he even want to give man the OPTION to be evil. If he wants everyone to go to heaven then he instead of banishing satan to hell he should've just destroyed him. Then my mama said, God doesnt destroy and I was like "whaaaat? As much as you read the Bible I cant believe you said God doesnt destroy because he has destroyed entire cities with thousands of people so why couldnt he just destroy the root of all evil?" and it was a pause. lmao then my uncle started to speak some mumbo jumbo again, i stopped listening and continued to play Zelda: Twilight Princess. (which is a dope game by the way)
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04-02-07, 11:56 AM | #2 | |||||||||
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technically speaking, if god can see into the future, then he is fully aware of our paths...so from the second we're born....a path has already been made for us...and we have no way of changing our path...therefore...we have no free will...we can only make choices on now...but we have no control over our future, that, if anything is God's decision isn't it? i mean i'm "deciding what im writing" but God already knows what ima type in this box and the next and the one after that...so...i guess i dont have free will...more like im following the path God has given me...
question him on that
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04-02-07, 11:57 AM | #3 | ||||||
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BOO YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Thats a good one my dude
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04-02-07, 11:58 AM | #4 | ||||||
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That means he already knows if we're going to Heaven or Hell.
If he know the future then any decision we make he will alreayd know even if its a bad one that might get ourselves or other people hurt if he can stop alot of pain then why doesnt he!??!
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04-02-07, 12:04 PM | #5 | |||||||
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god dont exist.
^^tell them that.
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04-02-07, 12:05 PM | #6 | |||||||||
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thas exactly my point...he knows all the choices we're gonna make before we decide ourselves...where's the free will in that?...a puppet has no awareness so we as puppet masters can make it do what we want...we're unaware of our path and God has already laid it out for us...therefore making us the puppets and he the puppet master...to have free will God would have to litterally show me the path im going to take and then let me decide if i want to walk through that path...but then again...wouldn't God already know my answer?
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gangstas dont play zelda....................1
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04-02-07, 12:28 PM | #9 | |||||||
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Which would you rather have; 70 years or so of free will? or an eternity of happiness in heaven?
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04-02-07, 12:29 PM | #10 | |||||||
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How the fuck do you know what gangstas do when the closet g to you is ATLEAST 400 miles south of Alanson?
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04-02-07, 12:39 PM | #12 | |||||||
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So you're comparing a dictator like Fidel Castro to The Lord? If he didnt allow sin to be introduced into the world then he wouldnt have to "tell" us what to do BUT Now that you mention, he DOES tell us what to do you ever heard of the ten commandments?
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04-02-07, 12:39 PM | #13 | ||||||||
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From what I hear Cuba isn't all that bad as us Americans make it, Everyone gets equal pay so there is no rich or poor, free electricty, housing, water, medicaid...
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04-02-07, 12:43 PM | #14 | |||||||
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Lmfao @ these weak ass arguments.
God is God, meaning that God is above worldly logic. So if he knows what you'll do, that doesn't mean he made you do it. For instance, do you know some people so well that you can pretty much guess what they'll do tomorrow or in any particular situation? Well, God would be something like that (in terms of predestination vs. free will) not that he decided FOR you that you will do one thing rather than another, but more that he understands you SO well that he does know what you will do. Try to get out of thinking of God as some sort of big guy with super powers, if there is a God in the sense that you are talking about, there are things of him that simply don't apply to the field of human logic. =/
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