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Old 04-01-07, 02:39 PM   #1
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Jay 3rd & Jet Convo, what's yall opinions on hip hop

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iight now before i post this just lettin jet kno i aint mockin u on this but i think this alone made a great message and really should get some opinions on it.. i respect ya music fam and what ya do.. but we see it totally different....

Mafioso Wayz: yo yo
carsonjetX2: sup
Mafioso Wayz: i have the verse recordin fixen it up now
Mafioso Wayz: but i did somethin a little different
carsonjetX2: ok
Mafioso Wayz: i couldnt start it off where ecko ended so i added a Gladiator movie clip
Mafioso Wayz: and then did my verse
Mafioso Wayz: sounds nice
Mafioso Wayz: and i didn't rap about streets and shit... hearin the beat made me think of some warrior battle shit
Mafioso Wayz: so thats what i did
Mafioso Wayz: wanna peep
Mafioso Wayz: let ya peep the unfiltered version
carsonjetX2: hold on
carsonjetX2: ok send it

Mafioso Wayz: i think it set ya up perfect
carsonjetX2: ok coo lemme check it out in a few
carsonjetX2: no this is horrible
Mafioso Wayz: lol damn
Mafioso Wayz: its kinda hard for me to start off on a hook
carsonjetX2: just tellin u the truth.....i dont like the movie shit
Mafioso Wayz: maybe u fill in the hook part
Mafioso Wayz: and keep in my part

Mafioso Wayz: that koo?
Mafioso Wayz: i think the verse is nice, so if ya wanna fill in that hook area go for it, cuz i couldnt think of shit
carsonjetX2: nevermind....ima jus do the rest of it myself
Mafioso Wayz: iight then
Mafioso Wayz: u dont like the verse or anything?
carsonjetX2: no i didnt. just didnt measure up to echo's
Mafioso Wayz: lol i aint gon rap about grillz and streets on this kinda beat
Mafioso Wayz: but iight man
carsonjetX2: we arent
carsonjetX2: and 99% u can rap about carebears if u want. its the sound you produce not the mesage.
Mafioso Wayz: and thats whats wrong with hip hop today
Mafioso Wayz: it lost it's message
carsonjetX2: sure whatever you say
carsonjetX2: another nas.....
Mafioso Wayz: i'll rock some southern music, cuz crunk shit is nice for clubs.. but as general hip hop.. naw tech n9ne, tone deff, old mobb deep and wu tang is what hip hop is

Mafioso Wayz: when there was somethin to rap about
Mafioso Wayz: which is why Rock music is on a higher chart than rap music
carsonjetX2: people are always too busy tryna send a message these days they dont produce solid catchy tracks.....just a bunch of blah blah blah that dont flow. no one listens to the words. only the person thats sayin them.

Mafioso Wayz: cuz they have a message
Mafioso Wayz: lol u kidden me man.. everyone listens to the lyrics.. if its catchy they like flow and delivery is sick but lyrics is eh
carsonjetX2: people think its about a bigger message......but its really about fuckin hoes drinkin 40's an havin fun. there's nothing else to life. or atleast there is nothing else i rather hear about.

Mafioso Wayz: its not really a message just make sense on what u sayin
carsonjetX2: music is for party's not discussion forums
Mafioso Wayz: theres a looot of people in this world that wanna hear music they can relate to or be semi similar to they life
Mafioso Wayz: naw music aint for parties lmaoo
carsonjetX2: not the people i know
Mafioso Wayz: get the fuck outta here thats retared music is for parties if u crunk.. but a lot of people like viben
carsonjetX2: not the people i know
Mafioso Wayz: u chillen wit kids on sesame street then man
Mafioso Wayz: cuz that childish man
Mafioso Wayz: c'mon now
carsonjetX2: i cant speak on people i dont know but everybody i know music is for partying...nuttin else
Mafioso Wayz: cuz thats whats in right now the crunk music.. but a lot of people still want somethint o vibe to
carsonjetX2: we dont sit around and disect a song for a message
carsonjetX2: 85% of a song is beat
Mafioso Wayz: its not that at all theres so many song that have a message but sound nice riden to
Mafioso Wayz: Royce 5'9 for example
Mafioso Wayz: "throw back"
carsonjetX2: dont even kno him
Mafioso Wayz: how old are ya man?
carsonjetX2: 22
Mafioso Wayz: then u should kno man
Mafioso Wayz: that people wanna vibe and people wanna get crunk
carsonjetX2: i kno all top 20 artists thats it. im not a student of rap. i actually could care less about it unless i like the song
Mafioso Wayz: lol i hope u dont consider ya self a tru emcee then cuz a tru emcee knows his homework
Mafioso Wayz: knows where the roots are
Mafioso Wayz: and where it came from
carsonjetX2: i disagree a true emcee is one with talent.
Mafioso Wayz: talent dont mean shit if u dont kno the history
Mafioso Wayz: say that on Tv people use ya cd as a frisbee
carsonjetX2: you can be great and not know the history of your game
Mafioso Wayz: people wont care about ya greatness if u dont respect the past
carsonjetX2: people dont care if you respect the game. only people that are in the game themselves care if u respect the game
Mafioso Wayz: trust me if ya make it big, which its possible u got some talent dawg.. this question will pop up
carsonjetX2: 99% of eminems fans listen to justin timberlake
carsonjetX2: so what does that tell you
Mafioso Wayz: thats not a statement man
Mafioso Wayz: thats overexagerating
Mafioso Wayz: but i feel where u commin from
carsonjetX2: honestly as of right now i rather here timberlake
Mafioso Wayz: cuz he his makin party music
Mafioso Wayz: i dont blame ya if he's vs eminem.. i keep herain the same shit from EM
carsonjetX2: i dont know.....i just think his music sounds good
carsonjetX2: i dont look deep into shit....
Mafioso Wayz: naw look man i dont fully disagree with you, but i have my vison on hip hop differently
Mafioso Wayz: i kno a lot of people that have your vison
Mafioso Wayz: dont care bout the past care about the present
carsonjetX2: and thats fine. but you do understand ur appealing to 20% insteada 80%
Mafioso Wayz: and i'm hallpy with any percent
Mafioso Wayz: i take what i can get
carsonjetX2: and the 20% usually download insteada buy
Mafioso Wayz: well i make my music for free anyway
carsonjetX2: I want the 15-18 female crowd
carsonjetX2: thats the money market.
carsonjetX2: I dont need the respect from sum online true to the game underground hip hop heads....I rather little kristy down the street, who's payin 13.99 for my cd
Mafioso Wayz: i dont blame ya for that a lot of people want that
Mafioso Wayz: but atleast respect the past know why ur able to do what ya can today
carsonjetX2: the past has nothing to do with what i can do today.....because i know nothing of it...and i still do what i do today....no?
Mafioso Wayz: u kno how to do what u can today by listening to todays music but where do u think they learned.. its not like it formed in 2000
carsonjetX2: ok....i c that....and i do respect the people i steal from.....like krazy bone,twista,eminem,linkin park....
carsonjetX2: but that aint history....thats right now
Mafioso Wayz: what i'm sayin is that u take from them but they take from earlier and thats how they got where they are
Mafioso Wayz: its a cycle man
Mafioso Wayz: and to me i think the cycle is spinnin slower cuz its the same shit everyday
Mafioso Wayz: i like crunk music gets me in that good mood
Mafioso Wayz: but it all sounds the same
Mafioso Wayz: compared to 329072037592087590 messages in the world than can sound sick on a beat and people feel
Mafioso Wayz: but its whatever its an argument that can go on for years.. thats why there is different type of rap catagories
Mafioso Wayz: so i cant blame ya for ya opinion
carsonjetX2: i agree. you just like rap alot more than me
Mafioso Wayz: but i can say its just a Fad, a really long term fad but it will die out
Mafioso Wayz: somethin new or old will pop up and crunk will slow down
Mafioso Wayz: and a new cycle will form
Mafioso Wayz: some future shit
Mafioso Wayz: and then peopl same damn i remember them lil jon days shit was nice
carsonjetX2: yep
carsonjetX2: but im a dj so i stay hip with whats hip
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Old 04-01-07, 03:03 PM   #2
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15-18 yr old females change favorite rappers like underwear

your gonna be in for one week

Go plastic, and not make shit

and still be wondering why your a broke ass bum

shit you wont even make it off RV anyways
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Old 04-01-07, 03:16 PM   #3
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My opinion is Carson Jet is a moron...

So, I won't be reading this convo.

Now...if you wanna have a REAL convo...hit me up



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Old 04-01-07, 03:21 PM   #4
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lmao, rap wuz never meant fo people like him anyway, werd
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Old 04-01-07, 03:39 PM   #5
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My opinion is Carson Jet is a moron...

So, I won't be reading this convo.

Now...if you wanna have a REAL convo...hit me up



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can i send u dirty messages
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Old 04-01-07, 04:15 PM   #6
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Old 04-01-07, 04:21 PM   #7
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haha i see both sides of the convo....cuz the majority of people who buy my music care about 1-the beat, and 2- that i dont sound akward or my flow doesnt mess up.....they might listen to the words of a hook or so but otherwise its just that.....so i see exactly where carson is goin....i dont think thats what hip hop is...cuz that happens in all genres....and i know the other aspect cuz those people i know who appricate hip hop look deeper into it....so its a mixture of both of what yall are sayin.....

me personally....ima make music for me....and music to sell to people.....cuz its somethin i love to do and wouldnt mind makin some more money off of...
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Old 04-02-07, 02:26 PM   #8
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Old 04-02-07, 06:57 PM   #9
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im just saying

if jet died, the nations iq would rise a little

just saying ya know
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