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Old 01-06-04, 12:06 PM   #1
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Breakdown of your favorite Emcees

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Niggaz had a lil Dorm arguement last night so i decided to put it up here. Besides, class is out early

So i'mma breakdown some emcees on strength,weakness,dopest album,worse album, best decision, worse, dopest line if i can think of it, and worse line if i can think of it, and predicition, lets jump if off

50 Cent
Strength-Can be seen as inspiration since he got shot, Has the physical appearance to keep the sales ringing in, rolls wit Eminem

Weakness-he is Wack, The lingering rumor of him being a snitch is starting to eat away at the Street Cred he has left, Starting to believe anything he puts out is dope so is showing signs of laziness by weak lines.

Best album-50 Cent is the Future

Worse album-Beg for Mercy

Best Song-How to Rob

Worse Song-Ghetto Qu'ran (need proof of snitching? listenning to that shit)

Dopest line-" Wake up from nightmares tossing and turning/When i close my eyes i can feel the shells burning"

Worse line-"That shit about "after the awards show my baby momma cussed my ass out/we back again cool now like Puffy and Steve Stout"

Good choices- Picking Ja Rule to have a beef with, because if you do the history Ghostface,DMX,Jay-Z,and Keith Murray all dissed him back, but when he went public he picked Ja Rule out of all them to take it to the masses with. Also teaming up with Shady Aftermath, got him instant attention.

Bad choices-Listenning to people that have no clue about hiphop when they tell him he is dope and blaza blaza blaza. Now he is lazy and getting annoying to see just like Master P was.


Prediction-Eventually he'll level off, and if more strange shit comes up about his fabricated past he'll be finished on the street level, which eventually translates to the commerical scene.

Fat Joe
Strength-Has the respect of hiphop heads from his work with DITC,Showbiz,AG,Kool G Rap, and Nas

Weakness-Since Pun died his level of lyrics have shown to be weak, Trying to hard to create hits and is losing the respect he spent 10 years gaining by doing songs with Ashanti, and Nick Cannon.

Best Album-DITC

Worse Album-JOSE

Best Song-"Twinz"

Worse Song-"We Clubbing"

Dopest line-"Cuz Joe Crack plus Gats equal a lot of dead mouthafuckaz"

Worse line-pick one from "We Clubbing"

Good Choices-Discovering Pun, probably without Him finding Pun, Pun might not of been able to reach the level of success he found.

Bad Choices-Doing an album that he set out only to move units with, picking a fued with Jay-Z then getting his ass emberressed by him, Losing the Terror Squad (mainly Remy Martin),Being seen in public with Nick Cannon and sayin "yeah man Nick makes good music and thats what i'm all about"

Prediction-he'll fall off, he is riding the sucess of being Puerto Rican right now that'll fade away quickly.

Nas

Strength-Wisdom,good Creativity at times, Delivery
Weakness-Changes himself too much, Inconsistant,

Best Album-It was Written

Worse Album-Nastradamus

Best Song-"One Mic"

Worse Song-"U Owe me" ft. Ginuwine

Best Line-Let me let ya'll niggaz know one thing/there is one life one love so there can only be one king/

Worse Line-"Getting crunk wit Lil John he the livest in the South/mess around and you get Wires in ya mouth"

Good Choices-Standing on his own two feet for so long, makes him seem stronger, Responding to Jay'Z,it made his career

Bad Choices-Teaming up with Murda Inc then dropping out, Bravehearts seem to bring his level of lyrical power down so he won't overshadow them, holding on to his and Jay-Z's battle 4 to long after repeating "i aint saying nothing on that that battle is over lets move foward"

Prediction-Who knows with Nas, but it seems his best days are behind him.I'll say he'll drop about 2 more albums then retire

DMX

Strength-Never lost that hunger he had from his first album, The most intense emcee ever, also very though provoking at times. At times gave some of the most insightful lines heard. Good Voice and Delivery, Good storyteller

Weakness-Lack of creativity, Never grew lyrically.

Best Album-Its Dark and Hell is Hot

Worse Album-Grand Champ

Best Song-"Damien"

Worse Song-"Get it on the Floor"

Dopest Line-Somebody pick one

Worse Line-"Last i heard u cowards was having sex/with the same sex" Zero Creativity

Good choice-Staying with the same Team, no other label could handle DMX

Bad Choice-Picking a fued with Ja Rule out of the blue, made him seem jealous like a mouthafucka,also made it look like he was doing it just for attention, also his acting career is one bad choice after another one.

Prediction-He is retired so i say he'll stay retired, started off maybe being able to break the top 10 of All time on my list, left not even being on the top 10 of RIGHT NOW.

Ghostface Killa-
Strength-without a doubt the most creative Emcee of all time,probably top 3 on most respected emcees of today, think about it, he calls EVERYBODY out to battle him all the Time, yet nobody ever accepts the challenge, one of the best storytellers of all time

Weakness-too much creativity, makes it almost impossible to understand his ass from time to time

Best Album-Supreme Clientele, if u don't wanna count the classic as part of The Wu Tang Clan

Worse Album-Bulletproof Wallets

Best Song-"All that i got iz U" (I know of a lot of dope ass songs that 90% of ya'll probably have never heard so i 'll go wit something ya'll know

Worse Song-"Never B the Same again"Featuring Carl Thomas

Dopest Line-2 many to pick from

Worse line-"Maybe he came up with the right flow, bigger dick more dough must of been the best though" Just cuz its from his worse song

Good Choices-Rolling wit Wu-Tang Clan, Changing labels.

Bad Choices-Refusing to dumb down his creativity,(I love it but it;ll hold his record sales back)

Prediction-Will never get the respect he deserves from the masses. But he don't give a fuck in his own worse "Anybody that aint got me on they top 10 of all time list don't like hiphop and i don't give a fuck if they got heartbeats"

I'm tired so i'll post the rest in a minute i'm going to eat some good ol fashioned home made Ramien Noodles
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Old 01-07-04, 12:20 AM   #2
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Rakim-
Strength-His lyrical ability is without equal. Hes number 1 and so far ahead the next person has to be ranked 3rd... thats probably KRS One

Weakness- His live concerts are not for the party type. You have to sit back and just listen.

Best Album- Paid in Full

Worse Album-Anyone that is in the making, for its lack of being in my CD player

Best Song- Can be argued to death, but my two favorites are 'My Melody' and 'Pain in Full'

Worse Song- N/A

Dopest Line-Take a phrase thats rarly heard, flip it...now its a daily word

Worse line- N/A

Good Choices-Picking up a mic

Bad Choices-The loss of Eric B.

Prediction- Will never the credit he deserves. No one has yet to be as good as he is, yet he is not automatically number 1 in any rap list
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Old 01-07-04, 12:41 AM   #3
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what the fuck lmao u took all that time to do that?? well ima break down an emcee, hes not necessarily my favorite but definately one of them....

Canibus:

Strengths: amazing lyrics.. hes on the genius tip, 90% of his verses have me literally like "Damn!".. the shit he comes out wit is amazing. knows how to ride a beat well, and he's got that raw battle presence...

Weakness: He's a true underground head.. meaning he aint willing to adapt and become an appeal to the mainstream, he aint finna sell out.. which limits his user base and the amount of people he will appeal to

peace.....
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Old 01-07-04, 01:10 AM   #4
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not my favorite but he's up there.......

- Nas -

Strength: He got a unique style and a good flow...

Weakness: He seems to be gettin' a lil' soft...

Best Album: "illmatic"

Best Line: "I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death..."
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Old 01-07-04, 02:36 AM   #5
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Jay-Z

Strength
His Flow, Charisma, And His Wordplay...Occassionally Spits Average Lyrics...But Pretty Much One Big Quotable...

Weakness
His Lyrics...Some Can Be Dope, Others Are Blah...Also His Choice Of Singles To Put Out, And Sometimes He Can Be To Pop...

Best Album
Reasonable Doubt Or The Blueprint

Worst Album
The Life And Times Of S. Carter, Vol. 3

Best Song
Dead Presidents II

Worst Song
S. Carter

Dopest Line
TBD

Worst Line
TBD

Best Choices
Getting With Beyonce...Lucky Guy...

Worst Choices
The Best Of Both Worlds Album...Especially After R. Kelly's Legal Issues...()

Prediction
Jay Will Remain Retired, But He Will Do The Occasional Guest Appearance On A Track...He Will Definitely Remain On The Business Side Of Roc-A-Fella, And He Will Help Develop The Newer Artists On The Roc...
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Old 01-07-04, 09:54 AM   #6
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Rass Kass
Strength-lyrical genius, plain and simple
weakness-clearly he only wants to win on his own terms, fought some kid from D12 which ruined his chances of getting in Aftermath, disses white people which further ruin his chances of getting with aftermath, and sometimes stretches rhyme pattern too far 2 fit shit in

best CD-Van Gogh
Worse CD-that one that says "Golden State Project" simple cuz Defari fucks it up

Best song-"Waterproof Emcee"
Worse song-that lame shit wit Mac 10

Best Line-"Anglosaxien factions is packing mac tens training for helta skelta win the race ware begins" or "u running around in thousand dolla clown suits better get some boots b4 they turn ya city to Barut"

Worse line-"I got a Master P like Master P" which is from a drunk freestyle that he eventually went on to murder

good choices-sticking to his guns and not changing up for nobody
bad choices-beating up that D12 member

prediction-eventually he'll get his shot, he is 2 dope not to, even Canibus got his shot to shine but fucked it up wit his debut album, after Rass gets out of jail i predict his shit will only be doper
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Old 01-07-04, 11:20 AM   #7
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Mr X to the Z, Xzibit

strengths: an amazing live performer with limitless energy, also shown himself to a be strong battle emcee as well, able to rap about a wide variety of subject convincingly and not just the "gangsta shit" which the west coast is stuck on

weaknesses: commerical success meant xzibit has gotten lazy, hes developed a habit of rapping about rapping on his latest 2 releases.

best cd: arguably the "speed of life"
worst cd: restless

best song: either papparatzi or foundation
worst song: back to la with mop, god i hate those motherfuckers!

best line(s): "i was anxious as fuck to see your face shine/ only to see your face looked like mine/ so its like i'm living twice at the exact same time/

worst line: pick one from either "u know" or that other one with dre off man vs machine

good choices: getting dre to produce some of his tracks, getting eminem to star on some. hanging around with rass kass.

bad choices: getting lazy with success, hanging around with d-12 and saafir
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Old 01-07-04, 12:17 PM   #8
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Big Punisher

Strengths-incredible breath control made more astonishing by his weight, dope ass vocabulary, nasty multies, dope ass battle rapper

weakness-live shows due to weight

Best CD-First one *snaps fingers and ask "fuck is tha name of that" awww yes Capitol Punishment
Worse CD-Second one

Best Line-argueable i'll take "dead in tha middle of little Italy little did we know we Riddled some Middle man who didn't do Diddly" just cuz its tha only one wit words i can spell correctly off tha top of my head

Worse Line- N/A probably one of his second CD that i didn't buy
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Old 01-07-04, 12:19 PM   #9
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I WAS GOING TO DO RAKIM BUT REALIST HAD TO DO IT!
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Old 01-07-04, 12:21 PM   #10
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do Master P!!!!!!!!! shit should be simple Worse choice-opening his mouth Best Choice-closing it
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Old 01-07-04, 12:44 PM   #11
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I just realized i said favorite. fuck favorite just name mouthafuckaz

Joe Budden
Strength-metaphor king, shares his story, aint a "gangsta rapper", nice freestyler

weakness-flow is too like Jay-Z's, annoying when he changes his voice,

Good choices-taking his beat back from Jay-Z on the 'pump it up' beat, made him respected

bad choice-letting that corny ass "pump it up" video get out of the basement

best line-"that bullshit ya'll selling i aint buying/it don't add up everybody is a killa yet the murder rate is steady declinning/

worse line-that bullshit "PLAYA" shit he said 10000 times on 'pump it up' or 'we pump diesel i aint talking bout jeans and fitted WAIT"

can't say best or worse album cuz he only had one
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Old 01-07-04, 02:10 PM   #12
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I got alot of fav mc's, heres one:

Immortal Technique

Strength - Outstanding lyricist, he speaks the truth and nothin' but...he got everything you'd want in a rapper IMO.

Weakness - He overuses vocab a bit, you can tell by his breath control and the flow is affected by this.

Best Album
Revolutionary Vol.2

Best Song
Peruvian Cocaine - theres alot of good shit by him.

Worst Song
Spend Some Time [remix]

Best Line (theres alot)
"I'll bust of on her face, and right after the segment
she'll propably rub it in her pussy, trying to get herself pregnant"
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Old 01-08-04, 01:18 AM   #13
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Aesop Rock

Strengths: Wordplay, very creative, some really dope lines, flow.. fairly consistent

Weakness: Sounds like a machine, hard to understand what hes saying some (most) times. Will not appeal to any mainstream fan therefore will remain a poor guy in NY for the rest of his life unless people suddenly begin to enjoy a man who sounds like a machine and spits vocab out of a biology textbook.

Best Album: Labor Days

Worst Album: Bazooka Tooth

Best Song: 9 to 5er's anthem :P

Worst Song: none are really that bad
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Old 01-08-04, 10:38 AM   #14
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i just wanan see a g-unit fan come in here and try to justify them, that would be hilarious.

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