there is a big difference in these i dont consider rap to be part of hip hop beacuse it wasnt there when hip hop began so its not a element
while mcing has been when hip hop started it began with mcing most of yall no this story so im not gonna keep going but anyways like i was sayin
ther is a differance between a mc and a rapper which is something alot of you forget

FIRST OF ALL A MC CAN BE A RAPPER

BUT A RAPPER CAN NEVER BE A MC

here is a Good example

METHOD MAN = mc +rapper

why meth well he knows how to move a crowd like a mc
and is a lyricist . he is rapper because he sets trends and people follow him
same goes foe eminem tupac biggie nas these people are both

next example

MC

KRS-one
he isnt seen as some one who sets trend but he a mc most and formost he is about lyrics never realy cares about what others think he can move the crowd
this is a mc as do others

Rapper
this is some one who was created by the record label hip hop never created a rapper the industry did
this is what you have to understand

a good example of a rapper is lil john he doesnt write his own lyrics he just cares about selling record has no creativity the also change there style to fit in with what ever is hot this is not hip hop

so to some it up rap is not part of hip hop mc is

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u can't create talent


sorry



And, ENTERTAINING is a talent...


Which is why Missy (though some people disagree) is talented. You might not like her talents, but she's talented. She's entertaining.

I have an ability to evoke emotion from people. That = a talent. The names you named are simply talented at what they're talented at, some more than others. That doesn't make them "real" MCs as opposed to others you label as "just rappers" in a disparaging way.


Consider this. Tiger Woods is the best golfer in the world, PERIOD. He can do EVERYTHING pertaining to gold extraordinarily well. Take someone who doesn't play as well as he does. Does that make him a "real" golfer and the other guy "not a real golfer"? No. It just means Tiger brings something different and extra to the table. The same can be said when comparing D4L and KRS-1. And, believe it or not, not everyone loves or respects Tiger Woods, even though he is the greatest golfer on the planet.




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i wasnt sayin any one was better

and consider this Jo lewis is the greatest boxer ever right he step in the ring with a kick boxer the kick boxer kick but jo lewis doesnt is that fair thats the way i look at it

what im trying to say is they are to completely differnt thing
a rapper and a mc


also if you say records sale make you a good mc that is bull shit
lets put that in affect THEN mike tyson would be the greatest boxer ever
cause he filled up the register but he isnt as skilled as Ali or joe lewis or sugar ray

what im trying to say is they are to completely differnt thing
a rapper and a mc

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Yea...but aren't you implying that an emcee is somehow "greater" than someone who is a rapper? If that's the case, what do you base that on? KRS-1 is an emcee...okay...But, has KRs-1 ever sold out Madison Square Garden? Has KRs-1 even sold 10 million of the same record? I could argue that rappers who did the aforementioned are "greater" for that simple fact. It's what you prioritize.

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thats like sayin alex rodriguez is better than babe ruth cause he had 250 million dollar contract

so acording to your theory a-rod >than ruth cause money

or like sayin mike tyson better than muhhmad ALI cause he sold more seat

your theory
MIKE TYSON > muhhmad ali cause money

shaquille o'neal > karrem abdul jabbar cause money

no i dont thnk so

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NOPE...If 10 million people buy my album, it's because 10 million people felt me enough to buy it...

I'm saying that maybe there was something about TYSON that made people want to see him more than ALI...

Again, it's all different...

But, referring to D4l lovers as "cocksuckers" then saying D4l are not emcees implies that people you consider "emcees" are greater, which is your prerogative.



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see you got the term mc mixed up with rapper
they are gimmick rap crew

and why are u argueing with me i remember when i sent you the fishscale album you said i like ghostface cause he has no gimmicks he is a real mc
i have the post if you dont believe me

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I would never say, "he is a real mc"...

I said he is REAL/PURE HIP HOP. There were no comparisons drawn between "emcee" and "rapper". That's something you're arguing, not I.





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^^Let me clarify. I didn't say that in the context of comparing or contrasting emcee to "rapper"...

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ok then whats this



and where can I DL this album, or some songs?


I love Ghostface Killah...
He is a real emcee.
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^^Again...


emcee/rapper...I use them interchangeably...I wasn't comparing the two.

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yes you find an excuse for everything and for your information ghostface never had beef with biggie

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ur tone isn't necessary bruh...


and Ghostface dissed biggie.




PS...Ur welcome for the info I gave u in the PM.





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Rap is not part of hip hop?



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