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Old 04-16-03, 11:55 AM   #1
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''if 2pac woulda never died''

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If 2Pac had never died....(PEEP!!!!)
just a thought...
keystyle...I need the release

I'm a drop from the top, just letting the letters ride
over a thought I had got and mentally set aside
how detrimentally can a life affect our weathered times
but what woulda happened if 2Pac had never died?

First off, BIG would still be around, feeling the hate
cause he wasn't "The Greatest" until after his wake
before then he was commercial, a sell-out and wack
everyone from Ghostface to Nas agreed on that
peeved that Black was deep in cash he was fostering
and his label Undeas, would probably be prospering
meaning Charlie Baltimore's debut woulda been Golden
but wait...I'll get to all that in just a moment...

but if Pac HADN'T DIED...the West would be just crazy
Dr. Dre never woulda made it tryna sign Slim Shady
Come on.. A WHITE GUY?! Tupac woulda lambasted
Em' when he walked in the door, chalked on the floor
Pac woulda never stopped stalkin' the hoar, that's fact!
Y'all may idolize him, but remember, Pac was PRO-BLACK...
Aftermath woulda became a joke, anything else is iffy
and if they didn't make it...then neither would've Fifty

Snoop left Death Row, and Pac soon woulda followed
his own label, creating a archtype West coast model
for MCs, meaning the East woulda had to get it's game up
but with BIG being so hated, that really aint' sayin' much
Plus Nas was in his wack stage, so he wasn't much help
and Jay Z...Jay Z, that's another story in itself...
Think about it, his popularity rose cause he filled a void
only when BIG left with his death, Jay started makin' noise
Plus he had only planned on doing 2 albums, it's the cash
from his rise after BIG's death that kept him spittin' raps
He woulda retired as planned, The Roc woulda collapsed
cause ain't no way Bleak was carryin' a label on his back
So that means no third album from Jay Z, what's that do?
No Amil, No Beanie Siegal...and yep...NO JA RULE!!
No Murder Inc, no Ashanti, but did it really matter?
Without soundin' like Pac, Ja's just another rapper...
DMX woulda still debuted from LL, but with one minus
the Lox would still be Bad Boys, so, yup, no Ruff Riders
I mean, BIG was commercial...but BIG still was BIG
The Lox were wearin' shiney suits with him, tryna get Jig'!
Plus, think about the fact that there would be no Eve!
She was with Aftermath, Pac woulda never let 'em breathe
She woulda just been an ordinary chick, chargin' the door
but with Kim and Foxy still friends AND Charlie Baltimore?
She woulda been forgotten before she knew what happened
and if BIG hadn't died, Mase would probably still be rappin'
Bad Boy woulda been huge... Death Row woulda been decrepit
cause Pac was gettin' out after finishing his 20 records (lol.)
He didn't care, cause as we saw, he was movin' to movies
Higher Learning and Baby Boy?! With more flicks shot than oozies
people woulda start callin him Hollywood, he woulda lashed out
doing an album between films until the Industry blacked out
eventually hip hop woulda just got tired of the brother
cause you know Suge would drop each album after the other
and if he were still alive, he wouldn't have that martyr factor
so sadly, his career would've plummeted as a rapper
but as an actor? Pac probably woulda won some awards
but with Hip Hop still beefin' between both of its shores
he wouldn't have gotten recognition up there with Citizen Kane
Cause if he were still livin'...West and East'd be beefin' today

That's fact...so what do we have here, Bad Boy's an empire
Death Row's on fire, no Murder Inc. maybe no Rough Riders
No Shady, so fuck riders and groupies, and no 8 mile movies
No 50 Cents, he probably woulda died in a second shooting
East Coast would be surviving, the West would barely be there
cause with Pac just doing movies...does anyone really care?
The South would be wack, Master P never woulda dropped
with "Heaven for a Gangsta".... cause it was all about PAC..
Midwest would be ILL, Nelly might not be doin' the same shit
With Bone ridin' wit Pac and Big, he might not have made it
They woulda eatin' him alive after they dissed crucial conflict
and everyone else who had bittin' their singy-song shit

So who woulda picked the east up from commercial ruins
Maybe Nas, he'd probaly do just what he's currently doin'
(but can we really say that, without battling Jay Z,
who don't exist, remember, Nas'd prolly still be lazy)
The West woulda never rebounded, stayin' underground
and with no Chronic II, Dre prolly wouldn't be around
Hip Hop as we know it today woulda been changed forever
who knows...maybe his death changed it for the better
I guess I'll just die wonderin' if we'd be under better skies
If those bullets had missed, and 2Pac had never died...
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Old 04-16-03, 12:09 PM   #2
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was a long spit cat,nice rhymes through it,i just dont fell the topic,really i aint one for caring about 2pac or if hes alive or what itd be like if he was alive,hed prolly become a corporate cat with the fame or something,but thats just my opinion,if he was alive noone would care...thats all im saying.takes ones abscence to spark the hearts feelign of somethign tragic
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Old 04-16-03, 12:09 PM   #3
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You sit at home and think about 2 pac to much ... yup... sure does... but other than that it was a pretty tight lil story there.. I don't believe that most of it was true.. cause even pac changes lol... but shiet its whatever... OoNnEe
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Old 04-16-03, 02:03 PM   #4
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Old 04-16-03, 02:48 PM   #5
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dude that was 'ill, nice spit - little long though .. lol
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Old 04-16-03, 07:00 PM   #6
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was long i didnt like the topic cuz as define sed but it came to geather well nice 1 m8
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Old 04-16-03, 07:12 PM   #7
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great concept, great imagery, good ideas, average rhymes.

and i didnt appricaite the white-guy line.

oh and btw, dre would still be around even if pac was stil alive.
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Old 04-16-03, 10:07 PM   #8
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i loved the idea and the story u told
u put alotta thought into everything it was a good story
but i dont agree that pac wouldnt be big now, hes still big on shit he made in 95, he woulda progressed and evolved like the rest of them and hed still be the man 2day
shit if it wasnt for 2pac i wouldnt even be listin to hip hop right now, probably country or some shit lol
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Old 04-16-03, 10:57 PM   #9
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guess its all a matter of tastes,i dont like pac at all really,i listen to outlawz but very rarely just coz kadafi was a mad rhymer...hed prolly be big,but i don tsit aroun dmy house contemplating the shit,i have to much other shit to get done.and honestly i dont care about him...so waht he died,my peoples died and noone gave a fuck,so why should i nahmean...just my veiw
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Old 04-17-03, 10:13 AM   #10
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thanx for the feed peeps im highly greatful of it
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Old 04-17-03, 12:37 PM   #11
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Old 04-17-03, 02:21 PM   #12
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THANX FOR THE UP SKO

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Old 04-19-03, 09:26 AM   #13
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I seriously for real love this piece. It was sum of the tightest shit i ever read. It's one of my most favorite freestlyes! Damn...this is hard to say i can't find the right words. I am for real for real feelin this!!!!!!!!!!!!! It all rhymed & made perfect sense...damn i wish i could find a word to describe this.but i cant..idk..i for real love this! Hott Shit! Keep it up!
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Old 04-19-03, 10:42 AM   #14
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thanx damn those words there are quite impressin enuff and comin from a fe-male at that
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