...Do you people find that term racist?
(I will argue from a neutral point of view)

At the end of the day it isnt, people go on like it is, for example:
Some one comes up to me and calls me a Brit cause im British i dont start throwing the racist card, or people callin americans yanks....so why is it so wrong to call pakistanis pakis?

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Same thing goes for people being called whitey or blacky.

Yeah,

some one calls me whitey big shit lol.

That aint bother me either.

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It depends on the tone you have in your voice. Like, if you call Mexican people Mexicans just meaning the culture, it's fine. But if you use it as an insulting tone, then it changes and people find it offensive.

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Cricket commentators refer to the pakistan team as the pakis.
Australia as the aussies
and west indies as the windys.

So there racist?

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Fook crickets...

Baseball the only way to go.

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Any conversations about rasicm fuels the arguement. No matter if your from a positive point of veiw or actually being racist. Any conversation gives racist a spot to talk about it and act out.

So fuck race conversations.

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Well On The Topic I Would Say It Depends In WHich Way You Use It

if You Go Up To Someone Kick The yHead Call Em Pakis N Shit..>Thas Racist

But Reffering To The Culture Isnt Like Sayin The Pakis Come From Pakistan

And Like us

Brits Come From Britain

Welll.....Thas My Perspective

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But the point is...i dont think this is racist.

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Paki is a racist term, Daubs your logic is very flawed and I will prove that to be the case...

Paki is just like any other offensive word, the reason why it is offensive is not solely or even slightly because of what the word actually means or has been derived from, but because of the reason WHY it is used...hence if it is used by people to be offensive, then it is and will be offensive - The word Paki was used by racists (it was supposed to be a deragatory term for Pakistanis), and is still used by racists hence Pakistanis (like myself) find it offensive if it used by a person...

It is just like 'nigger' - The fact is, if you minus the history of the word nigger and the type of people it was intentionally used by as a deragatory term (the racists) then you could argue that there is nothing wrong with the actual word because it is derived from Negro which is an acceptable term...however, this is taking the word nigger out of context, and its history, and the fact it too was invented to be used as an offensive term....

Your logic is horribly flawed because you assume Paki is just a short word for Pakistani, and can be used instead of the latter....your assumption is wrong, because I do not know if you are aware, but racist motherfuckers use that term...whereas terms like Brit, they are not offensive because when they were first used and in the majority of cases when they are used now, their purpose is NOT to be offensive....

Now you could argue why Paki should be offensive, same way you can argue why Nigger should be offensive (I know the big difference between the two terms in terms of history) and that people should not find it offensive if it is not said to offend...however, go tell that to every single person who has been insulted with these terms, only for being who they are - besides, nothing is that easy...why should people like you be able to use terms that were popularly used by racists....just use the word Pakistani or Negro (for black people), or even Asian (something people do not find offensive in Britain when used to refer to people from the subcontinent)....

As for the part about the cricket commentators...that is bullshit - I watch cricket, and I have no idea which cricket you have been watching (probabaly some shit by the BNP maybe?), commentators NEVER and have NEVER used the term Paki as it is politically uncorrect, and rest assured if they did, you would find them receiving many complaints...

So drop your flawed logic, or try to reason with me....

This is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever read..

You talk about paki not being an abreviation of pakistani, but you give absolutly no reference to what it really is. And by logical assumption Paki is the first 4 letters of pakistani therefore it is a shortened version.

And whether or not it has been used in the past as a derrogatory term, it in no way can be related to the word nigger. Nigger is classafied as a disparaging term for a dark skinned race derrived from the french word neger for 'black person', it has actual meaning and is not an abreviation.

Paki, while it is believed to be a disparaging term and is classafied as 'offencive slang'. He is compleatly correct that it is nothing more than an abreviation and carries the same weight in conversation as 'aussie' for an Australian, or 'windy' for a person from the west indies. The only time someone should get offended by this term is when it is used in an offencive mannor. If someone says "I was jus chillin with a few of my paki mates" ...How the fuck is that offencive?

You cannot put this word in the same classification as nigger and anyone who does is looking for an excuse to winge when it is not warrented.

And dont let me catch you trying to say its not an abreviation again either. Becuase its right there in the dictionary. "[Short for PAKISTANI.]"

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You have to be blind to to look at the word Paki and not realise that it is OBVIOUSLY an abbreviation of Pakistani - I was not denying this, I was rather pointing out that its use of purpose here in the U.K is not as a shortened version of the fuller word to describe a Pakistani, but rather as an offensive term...understand?

I never said it could be related to Nigger - just quote me saying that in fact, I was actually responding to the argument that it is not offensive if it is not said in an offensive way...though this may be true, (people use Nigger all the time, even black people have embraced the word to describe themselves) I still do not think the case is as simple as that....same with Paki in that sense, because it has for a while not been used to describe Pakistani but is more of a racist term, so just because a person may say it in a nice way, why should it still be used?

Paki may be on the face of it, an abbreviation however you cannot classify it in the same category as Aussie, or Brit, because of the history and context of which this word is commonly used - rather than you dictating in an idealistic way what is right and what is wrong, why don't you go ask Pakistanis if they like this term?

I guarantee you 99% in the U.K will say no, because of the fact this word was used to insult and not as an abbreviation...the purpose is different to what the word actually is, and if you read my post I actually mentioned this - so if we Pakistanis do not like this word (because of the reasons I have mentioned) then who the fuck are you to use this term to describe us? Understand my point....?

I never put it in the same category as Nigger, hence why I even mentioned that I knew the difference in terms of history between the words....and I have already mentioned why I made my comparison....if I was like you, I could easily argue why a black person should find nigger offensive, if it is not said in an offensive way...

The fact is, that would be totally disregarding the history of the word....black people do not like that word because it was used to insult them...Pakistanis don't like Paki in the U.K because it is a deragory term and was used to insult them...so why should either accept the word? This is regardless of Paki being an abbreviation, because as I mentioned earlier Paki was never used as a substitute to be an abbreviation for Pakistani, but was rather a term used to insult Pakistanis...when a normal person uses the word knowingly, it is not something a Pakistani will like....so once again

Instead of being a bitch and arguing in favour of the user, why don't you argue for the victims? If we don't like this word...then who the fuck are you to use it?

Simple

Not of that alters the fact that you should be proud of your heritage.
Someone calls you a paki, say and what, that suppost to offend me...your a fuckin brit...etc.

No harm in it.

PS, out of interest where in the UK you at.

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