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Old 10-30-05, 02:13 PM   #1
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I saw Indeph's thread and decided to make this.

What are you veiws on it?

For me, for the most part I'm against it. However, there are some circumstances where I think you may have to use it. For example, if the baby is going to be born, the mother would die (whether it be through placement in her body, etc.), then I would have to say abort the baby. Situations like that, for me, justify an abortion. However, I am completely against when people use abortion as birth control and just kill babies for the hell of it. I guess for me it's circumstancial, but the majority of abortions that are happening probably aren't in a situation where somebody else's life is in danger.

What do you think about abortion?
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Old 10-30-05, 02:20 PM   #2
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Oh, and I don't classify financial problems, stress, etc. to justify an abortion either. That's why adoption agencys exist. That's why fire departments and hospitals will take in new born babies. If you just don't want the baby, I think you need to at least give it a fighting chance to surrive.
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Old 10-30-05, 03:19 PM   #3
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Oh, and I don't classify financial problems, stress, etc. to justify an abortion either. That's why adoption agencys exist. That's why fire departments and hospitals will take in new born babies. If you just don't want the baby, I think you need to at least give it a fighting chance to surrive.


No...I disagree with this part,

Say for example..
A single 38 yr old mother,with 2 kids of her own..gets pregnant to a guy who can isn't finicially(or trustworthy enough) capable of supporting a family on his own.She has 2 jobs..BOTH far away.Which means she has to travel every morning and back.

SHE has to get an abortion.

Why?
Becuz she can't afford to have her stomach get all big and have all the side-effects of pregnancy.If she does,how would she be able to support her 2 kids?Who's gonna pay rent and buy all the neccessities for her and her kids?
She ain't gonna be able to go to work while being pregnant...and she's single,with no husband to help.And the guy who she got pregnant with isn't able to support her.

So bassically...actually having the child is hard.
Not just raising it after it's born...
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Old 11-30-05, 08:14 PM   #4
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No...I disagree with this part,

Say for example..
A single 38 yr old mother,with 2 kids of her own..gets pregnant to a guy who can isn't finicially(or trustworthy enough) capable of supporting a family on his own.She has 2 jobs..BOTH far away.Which means she has to travel every morning and back.

SHE has to get an abortion.

Why?
Becuz she can't afford to have her stomach get all big and have all the side-effects of pregnancy.If she does,how would she be able to support her 2 kids?Who's gonna pay rent and buy all the neccessities for her and her kids?
She ain't gonna be able to go to work while being pregnant...and she's single,with no husband to help.And the guy who she got pregnant with isn't able to support her.

So bassically...actually having the child is hard.
Not just raising it after it's born...


That's bullshit. It costs no money to put a kid up to adoption. It costs no money to leave a baby at a hospital, fire department, etc. Financial problems may stop parents from being able to keep a baby, but I don't think it justifies killing one. I never said if you get pregnant you have to raise the child yourself, and just deal with financial problems. I said abortion can only be justified in a few instances, and financial problems isn't one of them. Adoption, man. No money is involved in that.
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Old 10-30-05, 02:22 PM   #5
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agree'd.. rape..is another excusable instance..but.. other then that.. its just utter bullshit
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Old 10-30-05, 02:38 PM   #6
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I don't see why a rape victim can't give that baby up to adoption either..
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Old 10-31-05, 07:55 AM   #7
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I don't see why a rape victim can't give that baby up to adoption either..


With rape, having the baby could be seen as something good (bringing in a new life into world from something horrific), but I bet a majority of the times, the girl wasn't planning on getting pregnant at that point in her life and the thought of carrying a rapist's child and giving birth to it would bring back memories of the violation of her body. But then a girl could just avoid whole mindfuck of whether to have a baby or an abortion by taking the morning after pill asap and not even think about if she had gotten pregnant or not.

Personally, I'm pro-choice. It's her body, and I'm not going to say to a girl that she should have the baby when she doesn't want to. But just like you said about abortion shouldn't be used as a form of birth control, adoption shouldn't be seen as a solution to the unwanted baby situation. You've got to wonder how often a kid that finds out they were adopted would wonder why their own biological mother/father didn't want them.
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Old 11-30-05, 08:19 PM   #8
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With rape, having the baby could be seen as something good (bringing in a new life into world from something horrific), but I bet a majority of the times, the girl wasn't planning on getting pregnant at that point in her life and the thought of carrying a rapist's child and giving birth to it would bring back memories of the violation of her body. But then a girl could just avoid whole mindfuck of whether to have a baby or an abortion by taking the morning after pill asap and not even think about if she had gotten pregnant or not.

Personally, I'm pro-choice. It's her body, and I'm not going to say to a girl that she should have the baby when she doesn't want to. But just like you said about abortion shouldn't be used as a form of birth control, adoption shouldn't be seen as a solution to the unwanted baby situation. You've got to wonder how often a kid that finds out they were adopted would wonder why their own biological mother/father didn't want them.


Yeah, I do agree that if girls are raped the morning after pill should be taken, but when it's not, I don't know.. I don't see how you can abort a kid. And yeah, I understand the questions that a kid may have if they were adopted, but if it were me I'd rather know that my parents cared enough about me to admit that they couldn't take care of me and let somebody who would, do it. I'd rather be satisfied knowing that the people I'm with actually give a damn about me, and are able to give me a life that I wouldn't have if my parents had either decided to just abort me all together or decide to try and keep me and raise me up in a total shit hole.
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Old 11-14-05, 07:21 PM   #9
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I don't see why a rape victim can't give that baby up to adoption either..


i'm not so sure....... no one wants to have to remember being raped everytime they think of their kid........ but....... idk, i have no idea what my opinion would be, i guess it depends..... some ppl really don't want kids, and r abstinent bcuz of it.... i don't think they should be forced to have a kid bcuz someone raped them..... to me, that's like being fucked over twice.....
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Old 11-30-05, 08:25 PM   #10
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i'm not so sure....... no one wants to have to remember being raped everytime they think of their kid........ but....... idk, i have no idea what my opinion would be, i guess it depends..... some ppl really don't want kids, and r abstinent bcuz of it.... i don't think they should be forced to have a kid bcuz someone raped them..... to me, that's like being fucked over twice.....


Google "the morning after pill." If girls are raped they should take that, and it will kill anything that could start. It would be too early for a pregnancy to start, but would take out the chance of her getting pregnant due to rape.
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Old 11-10-05, 09:24 PM   #13
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I don't believe in abortion, cus people who have sex should know that they are takin the chance of havin one, but I wouldn't want a baby eitha, so I can't decide on this one.
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Old 11-11-05, 12:03 AM   #14
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the point is...its not up to any of us whether a woman gets to have an abortion or not...

if you dont believe in it then dont have one or dont let your girl have one...but its not up to you to make decisions for other people...
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Old 11-30-05, 08:20 PM   #15
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the point is...its not up to any of us whether a woman gets to have an abortion or not...

if you dont believe in it then dont have one or dont let your girl have one...but its not up to you to make decisions for other people...


I'm not saying everybody should believe the way that I do. I'm not making decisions for anybody, just stating my opinion on the topic.
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