Do you believe air exists?

have u seen it?

u only see the manifestations right?


Or...do you believe South Africa Exists?...how do you know, have u ever been there?

Other people have right...?...just like other people say they've "SEEN" ghosts...


c'mon dawg


Philosophy is fun...and I got at least 3 hours before I need to go to sleep

draw ur weapon

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Did you REALLY need to make a whole separate thread for this?

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YEP...cuz the other one is sooo clogged

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20$ says dooms comes in this thread and rips you.

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I want in on this....no offence Q but this is what dooms dus...bestows knowledge on niggaz..he gon puzzle your ass wid some next level quantumn physics n mechanics while relating to his crack sales....watch...$500RV dollars...Dooms takes this


LMAo call 4 new forum debate battles

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Dawg...jus wait...doooms beat himself...cuz he talks without listening...and like a deaf person, that makes him sound DUMB...


place ur money where u'd like...but hold ya horses


and wassup wit the Q hate lately Acuity?

I just collabed wit u


tsk tsk tsk

by the way...My college degree is in SCIENCE

so...I ain't sweatin

thank you very much

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50 Dollars says DOOMS types 2 pages worth of Mumble Jumble cuz he thinks alot of words = truth...


eh eh

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lol.... you just made 50$ right there.

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A debate forums would be hot.......and Tha Q....ya didn't need a separate thread man.....

:sigh: I'm startign to think you get off on me brutalizing you publically liek this, but here we go:

1: No, I don't be-LIE-ve air exists. I KNOW it exists. And yes, I've seen it many times. I used to build race machines for a living and all of them were either turbo charged or supercharged. Blow-off valves would flush out compresed air, which is a white vapor. Nitrous Oxide cannisters expell air (oxygen) as a white vapor. The heat off the engines could be seen bending the air into waves. You nca duck down to the ground on a hot day and look at the horrizion and see this for your self. Also, in a can of compressed air you cna see it being expelled all the same - as a white mist, which is air molecules bundled tightly into one space. So yes I've seen it and know it exists and no, your argument still holds no water.

2: You'd have a valid point if I didn't know people that went to south africa and people who are from sounth africa - but lets say that they're all lying. If I wanted to verify for my self that south africa exists, I'd simply book a flight and go touch it and experience it my self. If I didnt' believe such a place exists, I'd simply go to North Africa, and travel sounth till I hit South Africa. Your "ghosts" however have absolutely zilch means to verify their existance under any controlled or uncontrolled envroinment.

This is not Philosophy, This is factology. I don't "believe" anytihng. Either I know it or I don't.

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#1...U've seen air? Are you sure? hmm..interesting...I know chocolate cake exists cuz I've had it and I've made it...I used OIL, EGGS, FLOUR, and CHOCOLATE topping...U can break it down intot he elements...Now, AIR broken down into it's simplest form is ATOMS...right? Have u seen Atoms? Have u actually seen protons, neutrons, and electrons? So, what you saw from those engines could be a variation of something else we haven't discovered they call "air"....IN fact, I think the same thing could be made of you saying "ghosts" don't exist...if I say I've seen a ghost and you discredit it, then I'm just as justified in saying that what you call "air" is merely some other occurence u misinterpret...TIT for a TA....


#2...Those people who claim to have been to South Africa could all be suffereing from hsyteria...right? You haven't been there...So, you have no "proof" that it exists...And, even if you did go, according to your argument, I can't accept your version of "fact" simply because you come back with stories of having seen this "great land"...People who have "seen" ghosts say the same thing...and yet you discredit them...what's the difference...


**The fact of the matter is simple...there are no absolutes other than math...right? If that's true, then the only way to prove anything exists is to conceptualize it in some formula...cuz even if ur eyes PERCEIVE IT, that doesn't prove the "existence" of it--i.e., holograms.



This is going no where tonight Dooms...

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Bro, you sound liek a hallocinigenic crack fiend right now. Here goes again, so you do exactly what you accused me of doing:

1: You just repeated exactly what I said and jsut used different examples - then asked me if I was sure air exists, when I jsut told you I know it does. What's the sense in that? I also told you how to verify for your self the existance of air. Your pointless counter-argument of "maybe its' something else" is completely wasted since it has absolutely no facts or any discussble truths to it. You raise aboslutely no points that would indicate that it DOSEN'T exist - which I did when shitting all over your "ghost" argument. the only thing you've said is "maybe" as if you were gonna put doubt in me, lol. No son, once agian, I am sure air exists and I already told you how I am sure of it. And how you cna see it for your self any time you'd like. You'd also have a point if things like Boyles law an the inert gas law and principles on thermal dynamics, and the princilples of wind resistance, and basic ass shit liek a map sensor or air pressure gauge didn't exist in addition to various other air/heat formulae - which are all proven far beyond your "maybe".

Your whole job at this point, since you tlaked your self into a corner, is to prove that air DOSEN'T exist, since I have already proven that it does. Not to mention the netire science comminuty that you live and breath from. Go!

2: I already discredited word of mouth in my ON argument and, once again, told you how YOU for your SELF could verify the existance of south africa your self. why would I prove it to you whne I showed you how to prove it to your self? You're going nowhere with this.

PS, "holograms" are real. A hologram is light projected to form an illusion. Now your'e going to tell me that light isn't real...

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ahhhhh...but here's the problem with your "arguments"


#1...Boyles Laws...laws of inert gases and anything regarding AIR is a moot point...you can apply a law to anything you choose to apply it to...My argument is that Boyles Laws applies to "somthing" that has been experienced that you all call AIR...But, can you prove that "air" exists? No one can truly see air. You can not see atoms. Therefore, you don't know it exists. All you know exists is something that exibits some characteritics of matter that people have arbitrarily decided to call "air"...If you correlate this to ghosts, then I can argue that at least people have claimed to "see" them...People have "felt" it...and people use various meters and monitors to measure paranormal--read: energy--activity...So, air only exists by definition only...A paranormal psychologist has every right to claim ghosts exists based on YOUR argument...that they've SEEN IT...that they have instruments that MEASURE it...that they see evidence of it's PRESENCE...




#2...You missed my point on this one...Word of mouth isn't what I was discrediting...I'm saying that even if I go to South Africa, that doesn't Prove it exists...that only proves that I experience "something" that has been called "South Africa"...If JOHN DOE has never been outside of bumfuck Lousiana and believes me, then he is dumb. If he travels to South Africa, then he can make the argument that it exists...But, that doesn't PROVE it exists...Therefore, how can you say people who claim to have "experienced" ghosts are vaild?...If that's the case, then I can say people who "claim" to have seen or been to South Africa are invalid and are suffering from some induced hysteria...

The facts are evident: people experience many things that they interpret in different ways...U can always define laws to validate a point you're trying to prove...Im just saying DON'T discredit someone who's experienced something that you haven't had the opportunity to yet...for what it's worth...which is all

JUST

RELATIVE.


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1 :sigh: wrong agiain. Soemthin becmeos a LAW because it's proven to exist and be a real force. Weather you call it "air" or you call it "ogabooga" t's still real and is documented. Also, again you're wrong. Atoms can be seen with an electron microscope. Read a god damn book. Ghosts how ever have absoltely no proof of existing at all. SOULS however do, which is probably what you're thinking, but as far as a spirit entity that has a physical bearing in this world, there is none.

2 Man you're sounding liek a straifght up retard now and you're falling back on the same argument many weak-minded clowns such as your self do. You're now trying to argue that someone can go to a physical place and it's still not "real"....Just think about that. But your argument is stil based on the "Ultimate Cop-out" which is "How can you prove ANYTHING exists?" which you can't. So what's the point of even having a discussion where you're trying to get to some basis or fact if nothing can be proven. This is why FACTOLOGISTS don't argue with THEOLOGISTS. And to not accept a fact liek the existance of a physical place is what's known as "ignorance".

PS, that sig is cute considering that not a single person in any of these threads agrees with anything you said, lol. Try again.

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