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Old 03-24-06, 03:19 PM   #1
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Why does America think they can change every country?

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For example Afghanistan...

Yes America helped them....

but its a country based on there own believes.

Whats ya'll views on this hoes.


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http://www.rapbattles.com/forum/sho...t=281631&page=1
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Old 03-24-06, 03:24 PM   #2
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Beliefs are good unless they infringe on the human rights of others...that creates a fundamental paradox...If the argument is that someone has a right to have a belief, then that means those beliefs can't interfere with someone's right to have beliefs...Otherwise, that's a violation of that principle.

Secondly, it's a cop out to say "they have their beliefs." America once allowed slavery. Was that right? It was once their belief that selling black men like oxen was acceptable behavior. So, according to that statement, other countries should have by-passed this and said, "Yes, millions of blacks died during the middle passage. But, that's their culture and their belief."

Thirdly, America is the greatest military power in the world currently. Don't let your egos fool you. America has the most advanced military and military technology in the world. So, that alone gives us the "guns" to push people around if we choose to.


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Old 03-24-06, 08:01 PM   #3
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Beliefs are good unless they infringe on the human rights of others


^^True but who makes those human rights? America?

the point am making is Bush Administration is trying to change every country to adapt to American political system.

Thats wrong.
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Old 03-25-06, 06:42 AM   #4
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^^True but who makes those human rights? America?

the point am making is Bush Administration is trying to change every country to adapt to American political system.

Thats wrong.


NO...Those human rights are inherent...i.e., the right to LIVE for one. I think Thomas Jefferson summed it up. Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...

On a biological standpoint, everyone has a right to defend himself...

Therefore, how is it fair that a dictator gets to live a happy life and then suppress everyone else. That won't go unpunished.
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Someone needs to skeet all over America.
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Its not America, its the american government, everyone hates americans cuz of what our government is doing, but most people here dont agree with it too, but theres nothing we can do about it cuz they can do whatever they want.
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Old 03-24-06, 03:31 PM   #7
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No, I hate a significant amount of Americans for reasons that don't involve the government at all.
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Anyone who says they "hate Americans" but watches movies with American actors, eat at American restaurants (KFC/MDs), and wear American made clothing is a hypocrite.
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Anyone who says they "hate Americans" but watches movies with American actors, eat at American restaurants (KFC/MDs), and wear American made clothing is a hypocrite.

Correct to an extent. The Americans I hate are for reasons that don't involve the parts of America I enjoy.
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Anyone who says they "hate Americans" but watches movies with American actors, eat at American restaurants (KFC/MDs), and wear American made clothing is a hypocrite.

Wait a minute...how the FUCK is that valid? Since when can you not like someone, but not be able to like what they produce? That's like saying anyone who likes R. Kelly's music likes R. Kelly as a person. I've asked many people what they thought of R. Kelly, and the ones who listen to his music all said "I don't like him as a person, but I like his music".
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Wait a minute...how the FUCK is that valid? Since when can you not like someone, but not be able to like what they produce? That's like saying anyone who likes R. Kelly's music likes R. Kelly as a person. I've asked many people what they thought of R. Kelly, and the ones who listen to his music all said "I don't like him as a person, but I like his music".



^^That's ridiculous. You can't dislike the "notion" of America but like American products. That's a compromise that is unacceptable. I can't hate what someone stands for, then claim I like what they "produce". ehh ehh

I think this is the problem with people right here. Hardly anyone is willing to take a stand and say what's right and what's wrong, as it applies to preserving human rights.

Again, I use the example of slavery. Based on your arguments, then the U.S. government should still be allowed to buy and sell slaves without the world raising an eyebrow.
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Again, I use the example of slavery. Based on your arguments, then the U.S. government should still be allowed to buy and sell slaves without the world raising an eyebrow.

That's not my arguements at all. I wouldn't be friends with someone who peed one people even if he was Whitney Houston. Shit, I don't know if I'd be friends with her crazy ass either.
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^^That's ridiculous. You can't dislike the "notion" of America but like American products. That's a compromise that is unacceptable. I can't hate what someone stands for, then claim I like what they "produce". ehh ehh

I think this is the problem with people right here. Hardly anyone is willing to take a stand and say what's right and what's wrong, as it applies to preserving human rights.

Again, I use the example of slavery. Based on your arguments, then the U.S. government should still be allowed to buy and sell slaves without the world raising an eyebrow.


Of course you can. America is such a broad thing. Maybe I hate some things in america, but like other things. For example, I hate the American government but I like KFC. The manager of a KFC store probably hates the government as well... And I hate the average american but I like jessica alba. Every american doesnt fit the stereotype of the kind of american I hate, and jessica alba is dope.

Its not love or hate, theres a huge grey area..
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Of course you can. America is such a broad thing. Maybe I hate some things in america, but like other things. For example, I hate the American government but I like KFC. The manager of a KFC store probably hates the government as well... And I hate the average american but I like jessica alba. Every american doesnt fit the stereotype of the kind of american I hate, and jessica alba is dope.

Its not love or hate, theres a huge grey area..



That sounds dangerously close to, "I don't hate all blacks, just the niggers."


Also, Macdonalds, Levis, Apple Pie, those things are American icons in a way. So, if someone hates "America", then they should hate things that represent America. You can't have your cake and eat it too. That's different from sayin "I hate Macdonalds." That doesn't mean you hate "America" because America represents many things. If they were specific, then that wouldn't be an issue. But, those terrorists hate America, period. They claim they hate the American "government" yet kill American "people".

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