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Old 05-17-06, 11:55 AM   #1
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Exclamation What you NEED TO KNOW about Iran/Israel/US/Islam and Nuke Threat...a MUST PEEP

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I'm doing a service here. Trust me. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I present the facts of what's apparent and clear.

1st off, it is inevitable that the United States will be attacked by Nukes. These nukes will either be suitcase bombs, or possible "dirty" nukes delivered by Al Queda sleeper cells within the United States. Most experts agree that it's not a matter of if, but when.


Believe it or not, the United States is engaged in a war they don't seem to quite understand. This war on "terror" is not the same war Iran, Al Qaeda, and Bin Laden are fighting. To them, this is a religion holy war, Isalm vs. everyone else.

Now, before you get upset at what I'm about to say. Open your minds.


THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM:


Muhammed was a man who claimed to have received visions from angels and God himself concerning the mission of God.

Early on, Muhammed sought to convert the Jews peacefully in Mecca. This wasn't working. So, he decided to use force in converting "pagans" to this newfound religion of Islam. That would be the Medina years. As a result, the Quran presents two conflicting views of Islam, which explains why some muslims say the "terrorists" are "extremists". The so-called "extremists", on the other hand, aren't really extreme at all. They are acting within the bounds of their beliefs. The fact is, the Quran gives them permission to "cut off the hands and feet" of unbelievers. The Quran commands them to convert pagans by force if necessary.

Surah 9:5 <----------------------- That scripture in the Quran explains it all. The terrorists are engaged in a holy war that they believe will land them in paradise, with 70 VIRGINS as a reward.


Now, concerning Arab hatred for Israel. Israel has been the target of anti-semitism for thousands of years. If you are familiar with the Holy Bible, you know the story of how Israel conquered the Arabs already present in that land at the request of God himself. These people were the Canaanites, the Hitites, Philistines, and other Edomite Arabs. Ever since then, there has been a fight for Israel, and specifically Jerusalem. You see, this is a religious war, regardless of whether the United States considers it one or not. The Arab Islamic Fundamentalists (i.e., terrorists) are attempting to convert the world to Islam by force, as instructed by the Quran. Israel is a pagan nation to them and they would want nothing more than to see it destroyed.


Two years ago, John Hagee (world known evangelist) wrote that Iran would have a Nuclear bomb in 12-18 months. That would mean Iran is only months away from having a nuclear weapon.

There are about 5-6 steps to producing a nuclear bomb. The majority of the steps involve using hundreds/thousands of centrifuges to separate the isotopes of Uranium to U235 (weapons grade Uranium). The centrifugation of the Uranium takes a year in itself. Iran is said to be in the final step of this process.

If Iran is successful in its endeavor, they will have at least one nuclear bomb capable of reaching any target in Israel. Iran already has cruise missile technology. And, if they produce this bomb according to plan, they will attack Israel first, and possibly America. If they attack America with suitcase bombs, you can bet it will be a coordinated effort with bombs going off simultaneously in 6-7 major cities, including Washington, D.C.!

Are there any repercussions to preemptive strikes against Iran?

Yes. If the United States attacks Irans nuclear facilities, the fundamentalist regime in Iran will call on insurgents to kill recklessly in Iraq, and possibly within the United States. The global market will be affected by the price of oil sky rocketing to more than 90-100 dollars a barrel. And, it would mark the beginning of a new Nuclear Cold war with the Islamic State. Russia is currently assisting Iran in its quest for nuclear power. They aren't the only ones. Add France and China to that list.


In conclusion, here are the facts/key points:

1. Iran is developing a nuclear bomb
2. Israel is Irans #1 target
3. The United States will be attacked
4. Islam gives these "terrorists" permission to kill in the name of Allah
5. The United States is ignorant about the nature of this very war
6. Jerusalem is the main focus of this unsettlement in the Middle East


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Now, I'll give you something biblical that has been confirmed time and again through history.

1. Israel represents God's chosen people in the bible. In the old testament, God promised to protect Israel and allow them to keep their land FOREVER.
...............The only times when Israel has been conquered as a nation is when they turn their backs on God. Therefore, Israel has been taken into captivity at least 20 times throughout history, more than that actually.

...............God warned that if the land of Israel is divided, like the United States wants to do, he will cause the nations involved great devastation. The United States wants to push a so-called "peace accord" that splits Jerusalem into at least 2 halves, one for the Jews, one for the Palestinians. If they do this, the bible warns that God will bring great destruction to the nations involved.

Israel has to defend itself. In my opinion, the best course of action is to use preemptive strikes on Irans nuclear facilities.

In either case, people, PREPARE YOURSELVES FOR WAR.
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Old 05-17-06, 12:06 PM   #2
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i knew it would eventually come to this...

i knew 9/11 wasnt going to be the last of any kind of attack on america.....

and yes america doesn't understand fully that the islamic religion is a bit....more violent in their practices...then any other religion.

but i do think that America will invade Iran next........its really the only thing that anyone can do....unless Isreal is going to do something
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Old 05-17-06, 12:11 PM   #3
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i knew it would eventually come to this...

i knew 9/11 wasnt going to be the last of any kind of attack on america.....

and yes america doesn't understand fully that the islamic religion is a bit....more violent in their practices...then any other religion.

but i do think that America will invade Iran next........its really the only thing that anyone can do....unless Isreal is going to do something



Yea...Israel may attack Iran before the United States...The U.S. has given Israel some heavy artillery...I'm talking about bombs that can penetrate the ground up to hundreds of feet...5000 lb. bombs...serious incendiary devices...

If Israel doesn't attack Iran first, it's basically national suicide.









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Old 05-17-06, 12:13 PM   #5
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u speak alot of shit america will not be attacked by nuclear bombs anytime soon



"soon" is a relative term bro...


Soon can mean a year...6 months...18 months...


Iran is more interested in attacking Israel than the U.S.

If you go back and read what I stated, you'll see where I talked about possible repercussions against the United Stated if we take preemptive strikes against Iran's known nuclear facilities.

An attack on America will happen. It's only a matter of when, not if.




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Old 05-17-06, 12:20 PM   #7
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ok let me change my post then america will not be atacked by nuclear bombs by another country in the next 50 years




You're right. America won't be attacked by a "country"...America will mosr likely be attacked by organized and/or rogue Fundamentalist groups like Al Qaeda. It's a known fact that Al Qaeda has access to bombs. Also, their posture when it comes to the United States will be influenced mostly by our attitude towards them, our actions, and our allegiance to Israel. What most people don't understand is that these Islamic fundamentalists are not extremists. They are doing what they feel their faith calls them to do, and that is to kill us "pagans".



Any attack on America with nuclear devices will most likely be coordinated.


And, that's not even the worse that could happen. Have you ever heard of EMP, electromagnetic pulse? EMP is a by product of a nuclear explosions. It disrupts and kills all electrical signals. Therefore, if Iran were to launch an EMP bomb over the United States, detonate it's plutonium explosives, it'd instantly send us back to the 1700s in a matter of a fraction of a second.


Put it this way. No matter what happens, we should prepare ourselves for war.







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Old 05-17-06, 12:16 PM   #9
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"soon" is a relative term bro...


Soon can mean a year...6 months...18 months...


Iran is more interested in attacking Israel than the U.S.

If you go back and read what I stated, you'll see where I talked about possible repercussions against the United Stated if we take preemptive strikes against Iran's known nuclear facilities.

An attack on America will happen. It's only a matter of when, not if.




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yes......the september 11th attacks was just the start.....

as i understand....the islamic religion does not tolerate that america is the world power...i think its stated somehwer that they must take out any world power and that the nation of islam should be the world power....or something of the such or another....someone correct me on this if i'm wrong
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Old 05-17-06, 12:23 PM   #10
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yes......the september 11th attacks was just the start.....

as i understand....the islamic religion does not tolerate that america is the world power...i think its stated somehwer that they must take out any world power and that the nation of islam should be the world power....or something of the such or another....someone correct me on this if i'm wrong



Yes...Islam teaches domination of other people, directly contrary to Christianity. Islam teaches that anyone who does not accept Islam must be killed. <-------------Therefore, the "terrorists" are really just fundamentalists following the example of Muhammed himself. There was a time when Muhammed tried to convert Jews peacefully. That didn't work. So, now, they are using the Quran as justification, and rightfully so according to their faith, to kill nonbelievers.

This is a religious war that the U.S. isn't aware of. And, dying for those Islamic Fundamentalists is a reward. That's why we'll never win the "war on terror" using the tactics currently in place. You can't win a war of ideals with bombs. There will always be death as long as there is belief.
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Old 05-17-06, 12:22 PM   #12
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yes i agree, its inevitable, we've been marching towards this moment forever now
it was never a question of "if"
just when...........
nicely formed argument q, was a good read
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Old 05-17-06, 04:10 PM   #13
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Saw a few minor errors there but the essence is there.

I suggest the United States stays outta this damn thing and work towards an agreement with the international community. The Iran-issue has been tackled by the international community so why not just join together with them...
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Old 05-17-06, 04:24 PM   #14
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Saw a few minor errors there but the essence is there.

I suggest the United States stays outta this damn thing and work towards an agreement with the international community. The Iran-issue has been tackled by the international community so why not just join together with them...



The U.S. might just stay out of this. But, indirectly, they're involved becase they're provided Israel with serious fire power. The clock is ticking though. If Iran successfully completes the centrigution of their Uranium, it may be the point of no return.









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Old 05-17-06, 04:38 PM   #15
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The U.S. might just stay out of this. But, indirectly, they're involved becase they're provided Israel with serious fire power. The clock is ticking though. If Iran successfully completes the centrigution of their Uranium, it may be the point of no return.









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i dont think they have the ball to attack the US
if they do you know we are gonna drop a nuke on them
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