What are people's thoughts on this kind of thing?

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Right.. Well my 'thoughts' on it are basically that we can in no way ultimatly prove that this is in any way a logical explenation of what follows on after death.

Therefore, all we can do is speculate on hypothetical possibilities if it were to be the case.

I think one of the main problems with this theory is simply that our population is in a constant expanse. However this is only a problem when looked at concepts such as time from a narrow human perspective where we only deal with the steady constant of the 'now'.

I believe the afterlife will naturally exist outside the boundries of time, therefore the fact that we have an ever expanding world population is not to say there are new souls, because 'past' lives figerativly speaking could be souls from future times spawned at this particular point on our world line for reasons beyond our ability to comphrehend.

And furthermore, we should definatly explore the reasons as to why this theory might have come into being in the first place.

What data has lead us to this theory if not the simple fact that we as a species cannot fathom the complete loss of our being? I think most of us just dont want to accept this as a possibility. Therefore throughout time we have created theories as to what 'might' happen in order to create a situation where death becomes easier to accept by saying we (in some altered state), continue on after we leave this realm.

Most would see this theory of the end being 'the end' primarily an 'athiest' view of death. But why?
Just because some ancient philosophical texts written at a time when human logic was pathetically simplistic reletive to what it has become today say that god will provide us a comfortable afterlife if we follow the teachings of cirtain 'so-called' enlightened humans?

To say we are repeatidly reborn is to say that our soul is eternal. And due to the human brain being a finite entitiy, we ofcourse cannot comphrehend eternity. Our main imperfection and what sets us aside from the devine deity that we believe created our universe and all its conditions for harbouring life is that our physical being is only here to experience an extremily tiny portion of time itself. For all we know, once were gone.........were gone... And everything that we once were simply remains a memory to those we leave behind as our physical being decomposes and essentually returns to the earth.

Whatever does happen after death, is ultimatly fairly trivial as it should play no major role in determining any portion of our fate in this physical plane we currantly exist within. I am comfortable with death, because I realise that its a part of life I have absolutly no control over, a final frontier if you will that we all must face at the end of our days and whether or not we will be reborn is inconsiquential to me as all I can do is wait and experience it when my time comes.

I'm sure there will be people out there who believe definitivly that reincarnation is what happens, some will believe heaven and hell (in a number of different forms) is the truth and ofcourse some will believe that the end of our lives, is the end of our existance compleatly.

But anyone who decides they know something like this to the point of being 100% sure is simply fooling themselves into a false sense of understanding for something they can never prove.

Much like religious 'faith'.

But thats another subject compleatly.....

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In rebirth, the soul doesn't exist. If it does, it does not exist in the same way you are thinking of. Since in Buddhism, the "self" is seen as an illusion and actually non-existant, then a "soul" which contains the individual essence or spirit of a person would not make sense. Rather, what is passed on from any living being is its energy.

For example, say somebody dies, their body is decomposed which releases energy into the universe's pool of energy, which everything is made out of. When a life is conceived, the energy manifests to create the being.

Rebirth isnt like, you die and your soul is then born again as a cow or another person or whatever, somehow. Its more like when you light one candle with another. No actual substance is transferred between them, but one is the cause of the other. Or like a seed that turns into a sprout... The sprout is not the same as the seed, but without the seed the sprout could not have come into existence.

The population problem is not actually a problem. Since the energy for new life does not necessarily need to come from human life, the fact that the population is growing actually coincides with this theory in a way. As the population grows, plants, trees and animals perish, which are all also composed of energy which returns to the universe.

I agree with you about how we shouldnt be focusing on death anyway. I mean, in a way we experience death everyday. Think about yourself 10 years ago... Where is that person now? You have completely changed since then, who you were 10 years ago doesnt exist anymore, and will never exist again. Essentially that person is dead. 10 years from now, we will be completely different to how we are now and us as we know ourselves now wont exist anymore.

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Well.. Being that what you have said is only theoretical.. I cant really argue against any of it..

But in a way, that is essentually just supporting the theory that who we are, and everything that builds us as a human being simply ends when we die never to resurface again.

Its quite logical... But ofcourse, nothing is certain. This theory, like all others on the subject, is only a product of human imagination.

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Personally, I believe that the self is an illusion. Who we are and what builds us as a human being is bullshit in my opinion.

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All we have in this currant form of existance is who we are and what builds us as a human being..

Why should it be an illusion.......or irrelevant for that matter?

Who we are is who we are and we can never be sure if that will follow us into the afterlife or not.

You may as well just get used to the fact that for the period of time your here on this plane, who you are is always going to be an instrumental part of your self and understanding your purpose here on earth.

Like I said, its death thats irrelevant, not life. Because life is all we really have.

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If I were to ask you who you were, what would you say? Who are you?

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I'd say I'm a rapper currantly living on the gold coast..

Why...What would you say?

"Oh I'm absolutly nothing cause who I am is a compleatly irrelevant illusion"[/wtf]

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Where are you going?

What do you want?

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i feel a human soul is poerful enough to come back in any form conciously.

i mean, there are people that can control their out of body experiences.


the human soul is a powerhouse I don't think we have even a fraction of understanding or control of, much like the human brain.

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Well it depends on how you look at things. Some believe actions and beliefs make the man. Although where the "illusion" comes in is probably when everyone has the ability to look at things different. Like I can look at the president and see a corrupt peice of shit who's tryin to take over the world. Where another person can think he's an honest man in a position of power. Who's right? Is the way Bush sees himself the only right thing? Who decides who "he" is? Him? If that's true then why do we have a collection opinion on sanity and morality? Just saying..