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Old 05-08-08, 02:29 AM   #1
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Are we really all the same?

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I have no intentions of anything being racist or harmful to any culture in this thread so don't come in here with some whining race card bullshit or unthoughtful responses.

This is assuming all races and cultures have existed on Earth for essentially the same amount of time.

Why is it that the Caucasian race was the first to really advance technologically with the creation of better weapons, boats, wagons, etc.?

Why wasn't it the African race? Or the Native American race?

Was it due to location and material possibility? See, I assume that North America would have had the best resources for everything, but the Native American's were slaughtered once the Brit's came across the pond.

So I was thinking..

Is each race born with a different drive/desire in life?
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Old 05-08-08, 02:45 AM   #3
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Old 05-08-08, 02:47 AM   #4
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Old 05-08-08, 02:55 AM   #5
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i watched a thing on the history channel about it, in the beggining they said it was because location..whoever had the better crops and bigger food supplie could advance more quickly.(in the very beggining) i cant elaborate cuz i dont really remember but i remember them saying that..
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Old 05-08-08, 03:16 AM   #6
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i watched a thing on the history channel about it, in the beggining they said it was because location..whoever had the better crops and bigger food supplie could advance more quickly.(in the very beggining) i cant elaborate cuz i dont really remember but i remember them saying that..

i would equate things more like...


who gets in more wars and forces their civilisations to develop new technology to stay ahead of their enemies..
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Old 05-10-08, 11:01 PM   #7
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i would equate things more like...


who gets in more wars and forces their civilisations to develop new technology to stay ahead of their enemies..



this statement just makes me laugh tho, cuz think of how many coutnries would fight each other. The Brits and French and they would just always end up in a stalemate? Then they'd just go away for a while, and then fight each other again. Technology, most of the time, is a devlopment for the country in some OTHER way than war. Than some general see's how it can be put to use in war and snatches it up.....
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Old 05-11-08, 12:13 AM   #8
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this statement just makes me laugh tho, cuz think of how many coutnries would fight each other. The Brits and French and they would just always end up in a stalemate? Then they'd just go away for a while, and then fight each other again. Technology, most of the time, is a devlopment for the country in some OTHER way than war. Than some general see's how it can be put to use in war and snatches it up.....

if you say so man
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Old 05-08-08, 03:15 AM   #9
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this is a pretty heavy debate, theres an insane amount of aspects and contributing factors playing a hand here.

at first glance you do have a point. and to an extent the argument of whether were all the same is easily rejected due to the fact that all our civilisations and ansestory paths have been different.

but the real argument or analogy would become, if other races were put in the situations that our white race had been put through, wouldnt they then have developed the same characteristics that we did to become what we are?

if the english race developed on a small island in the pacific near the equator, over thousands of years would the end result mean the english race would be black? or atleast far darker?

are you a supporter of the evolution theory? because this also plays a massive part in determining the conclusion to this thread.
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Old 05-08-08, 03:43 AM   #10
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this is a pretty heavy debate, theres an insane amount of aspects and contributing factors playing a hand here.

at first glance you do have a point. and to an extent the argument of whether were all the same is easily rejected due to the fact that all our civilisations and ansestory paths have been different.

but the real argument or analogy would become, if other races were put in the situations that our white race had been put through, wouldnt they then have developed the same characteristics that we did to become what we are?

if the english race developed on a small island in the pacific near the equator, over thousands of years would the end result mean the english race would be black? or atleast far darker?


are you a supporter of the evolution theory? because this also plays a massive part in determining the conclusion to this thread.


That's a good call. It's just always confused the shit out of me that for some reason the Caucasian race turned out to be so much more powerful than every other race and never understood why. I guess that it's a good question to think about if the Native American's were situated where Europe was and the Brits started in North America if the same shit would have happened. Shit is fucked up..

As for evolution, I'm open to everything except the beliefs of fundamental Christians.
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Old 05-08-08, 03:30 AM   #11
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^^^^i agree, i was just saying in the very beginning..they said the lands that had the advantages were europe the middle east and the top half of africa..
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you can call me stupid and wrong for giving my opinion on this thread, because other people always misunderstand what I have to say anyway, but did it ever cross your mind that tribes of black people/tribes of asian people/tribes of white people set themselves up differently to handle life and because of their ways of setting up their ways of life, that determined how much they could get from their land and people, which helped determine where they actually stood on the grounds of power in comparison to other races?

Afterall for many years Africa was ruled by Kings. Asia was ruled by Emperors, and most of the white nations were full of Dukes, & Kings, with an occasional democracy here and there.
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see, what you're failing to realize is how tainted your point of view is. it hasn't ALWAYS been the way it is today. take the world back 200 years and Africa is a flourishing land with a society just as advanced as European society. it wasn't until European colonization of Africa that shit started getting fucked up, do your research...

what i'm saying is, you're asking this question from the point of view of someone living in 2008, but you aren't applying modern events or circumstances in order to come to your conclusions. you're assuming that the way it is now is the way it has always been due to some kind of natural process that occurred way back. but the truth is, the world only became like how it is now recently.
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Old 05-08-08, 07:37 AM   #14
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see, what you're failing to realize is how tainted your point of view is. it hasn't ALWAYS been the way it is today. take the world back 200 years and Africa is a flourishing land with a society just as advanced as European society. it wasn't until European colonization of Africa that shit started getting fucked up, do your research...

im sorry..


it wasnt untill european colonization of africa that shit started getting fucked up?


isnt that a sure fire proven result that european society was more dominant and advanced than africans. what point are you trying to prove?
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Old 05-08-08, 10:09 AM   #15
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see, what you're failing to realize is how tainted your point of view is. it hasn't ALWAYS been the way it is today. take the world back 200 years and Africa is a flourishing land with a society just as advanced as European society. it wasn't until European colonization of Africa that shit started getting fucked up, do your research...

what i'm saying is, you're asking this question from the point of view of someone living in 2008, but you aren't applying modern events or circumstances in order to come to your conclusions. you're assuming that the way it is now is the way it has always been due to some kind of natural process that occurred way back. but the truth is, the world only became like how it is now recently.


You're fucking babbling about some bullshit you don't even understand in the first place and trying to look intelligent with it.

My point of view isn't tainted in any way at all. Africa never had a flourishing land with a society as advanced as the European society before colonization. What the fuck are you talking about? Do you think they would have actually sold slaves and did whatever the fuck Europe told them if they did? Fuck living in a 2008 point of view, you're living in a fucking race point of view, which actually makes YOU the racist.

My question was about different races have different drives/desires and if that would have been the determining factor to where and why we are what we are today. "The world only became like how it is now recently." No, no it fucking didn't. You're thinking from an American point of view and you're thinking wrong.
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