Originally Posted by Socrates

If that's the deepest you see you need help...

Knowledge and an education is VERY poorly supported in the black community. Why? Because of who are our "leaders" now, rap artists. And who are the most promoted and heavily succesful artists? The ones who talk about ditching school and selling crack and killing people. Look at what our priorities are made to be, as soon as someone gets their paycheck they wanna buy a chain, rims, gear, etc. making it harder for them to survive and get good homes etc.

Originally Posted by Socrates

If that's the deepest you see you need help...

Knowledge and an education is VERY poorly supported in the black community. Why? Because of who are our "leaders" now, rap artists. And who are the most promoted and heavily succesful artists? The ones who talk about ditching school and selling crack and killing people. Look at what our priorities are made to be, as soon as someone gets their paycheck they wanna buy a chain, rims, gear, etc. making it harder for them to survive and get good homes etc.

Originally Posted by Mimesis

It's not the music industry's fault though.

It doesn't take an IQ over 30 to see that there are only like, 100 or less, truly successful rap artists.

Why is the music industry getting blamed because the majority of black people can't get there shit together? "Well, our leaders.." It's all just a fucking excuse.

Everybody knows that a good education is pretty much a necessity in today's day and age, so fucking get one. Everybody WANTS things, like chains and gear and shit, but how many successful Americans would be willing to give in to those temptations so they can feel cool by putting rims on their car if they truly can't afford it?

It's not that fucking hard to understand.

The music industry affects people's lives.. Sure.
It's the music industry's fault that the majority of black people can't do well in school.. Fuck no.

Originally Posted by Socrates

If that's the deepest you see you need help...

Knowledge and an education is VERY poorly supported in the black community. Why? Because of who are our "leaders" now, rap artists. And who are the most promoted and heavily succesful artists? The ones who talk about ditching school and selling crack and killing people. Look at what our priorities are made to be, as soon as someone gets their paycheck they wanna buy a chain, rims, gear, etc. making it harder for them to survive and get good homes etc.

Originally Posted by Turban.

nah i know some smart black kids... the other ones i know are dumb as rocks... lol i'm not trying to butter it up.. i'm speaking the truth.. i'm not gonna say they something their not.. i don't know these people.. sure i can imagine some white people propose something as ridiculous as that to a committee... because they are trying to connect with a populous that seems un willing to accept other teaching methods...losing a mod spot has nothing to do with this i was stating this way before remember my "Black People and the N word thread"? yea...look at the statistics... if i offended you ...to bad..

o yea...i'm talking about the people around here... i worded it carefully so i wouldn't get one of these retarded responses...don't take things so personal.. . there are dumb indian , white , asian people to.. if that makes you feel any better... so don't feel so special that i decided to single out your race

Originally Posted by Doomsday

Although you're contradicting your self and back-peddling hardcore, I'll still play along. You do seem as someone who's essentialyl trying to justify racism. You're one step away form stereotyping [insert given minority here] then stting why they shouldn't be allowed to live. Your surmations about "lazy blacks the next town over" is laughable at best. I can find people liek that in your own neighborhood that aren't black. But the real question is how on earth would ebonics possibly help anyone with advancing themselves in the professional world? Why would something liek this be beneficial at all?


Mime: the music industry has nothing to do with why anyone's situation is anything liek it is anytime anywhere. But once agian..how would that relate to or justify Ebonics as a cirriculum?

Originally Posted by Turban.

i'm going to make a new thread that was one of the dumbest posts i have ever seem...

Originally Posted by Doomsday

Mime: the music industry has nothing to do with why anyone's situation is anything liek it is anytime anywhere. But once agian..how would that relate to or justify Ebonics as a cirriculum?]

Originally Posted by Mimesis

It's not the music industry's fault though.

It doesn't take an IQ over 30 to see that there are only like, 100 or less, truly successful rap artists.

Why is the music industry getting blamed because the majority of black people can't get there shit together? "Well, our leaders.." It's all just a fucking excuse.

Everybody knows that a good education is pretty much a necessity in today's day and age, so fucking get one. Everybody WANTS things, like chains and gear and shit, but how many successful Americans would be willing to give in to those temptations so they can feel cool by putting rims on their car if they truly can't afford it?

It's not that fucking hard to understand.


The music industry affects people's lives.. Sure.
It's the music industry's fault that the majority of black people can't do well in school.. Fuck no.

Originally Posted by Mimesis

I never said it did. I was just responding to Socrates post about how black people are failing because their "leaders" are rappers.

I don't support ebonics as a curriculum. That's just retarded.

Originally Posted by Turban.

thats not the farthest i've seen.. i've helped alot of kids at after school programs and such i even helped our schools basketball star (one of the only african american's in the school)with his homework...i neevr said they were bad people..i'm just stating what i have experienced and observed...just because the black population decides to idolize a bunch of lucky losers dosent mean i'm going to support it and give it the thumbs up

Originally Posted by Socrates

I never said it was anyones fault, but you cannot deny thats who the majority of young black men ESPECIALLY idolize more than anyone else.

If you can't see that, then wow.

Originally Posted by Socrates

Why? Because of who are our "leaders" now, rap artists.

Originally Posted by Mimesis

I never said I couldn't see that they idolize them.. I agree with you, that they do.. But it's their own damn fault for trying to live like them "wanting to buy chains and rims" as you said, if they can't afford it.

Originally Posted by Socrates

By your logic, someone who grew up in a house filled with satanic rituals should be looked down upon if that's all they know...