you don't understand how Newton's 3rd law of motion works...and you're not understand why there ISN'T a crater...It's the same explanation why there aren't dust plumes.

When the rocket lands, the thrusters will not create a crater because there is no air in between where the Rockets are and the ground...It's the pushing down of AIR that creates dust plumes...

and when the rocket takes off, the gas from the thrusters Push against the rocket itself, not the ground or the air...how else do u think thrusters work in absolute space where there is ZERO AIR...


WE WENT TO THE MOON.

PS...and it's not gravity that makes things LEAVE the ground, but gravity is the force that pulls things inward toward the ground.--other forces aren't applicable in this situation--ie., centrifugal and centripetal forces...

Im talkin str8 gravity.

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who knows what technology will be created by then to counter that...

but there will be a colony on the moon.


Nasa has already expressed interest...esp. for a permanent research station

and I predict that in another 200 years, there will be a colony or station on Mars.


and B-Mac...I don't have the link...I saw it on the news...it looks like a throwback to the Apollo program = BOOTY!

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WHAT?! YOU don't understand how newtons third law of motion works son!! A force has to act on 2 surfaces in order for this to even be factual. It could be the surface of the inner blast shield of an afterburner and a planet (with the force being propusltion), or it could be a hand pushing against a wall. Weather there is no air or not (which ther ALWAYS is), there is still another force being acted upon. I suggest you read up on how JATO works, because with out that basic fundamental knowledge this discussion is going nowhere.

PS, afterburners are moving AIR in order for the ship it self to move, so to say there's no air functioning in space is rediculous. There may not be and WIND, but there is always air.






You still didn't adres the conflicting light sources.

And in this qote you say "who knows what technology WILL be created BY THEN to counter that. That's intersting seeing that you still don't now how it was countered for anyone to "go to the moon" as you say.

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1st of all...all of these anti-moon visit theories are absurd conjectures due to inaccurate research...

the truth is this:

#1...The sun provides light...but the 2nd greatest light source is the moon itself...And when you mix in glare and bright white light due to various sources, including the moon's surface, you can get strange and unusual visual representations...that explains the crosshair "phenomenon"...the bright white objects bled into the surrounding areas and created that effect...


Also...Newton's 3rd law of motion says that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

A) THRUSTERS work in ZERO AIR...which means it doesn't require AIR to push on


That require 2 Surfaces for Newton's law to be true.

Now, what are those two surfaces? SIMPLE

The Craft is the 1st object and the gas from the thrusters is the 2nd object

when a craft is in Absolute space (vacuum) it can still move because the thrusters push against the craft and the craft against the thrusters...NO WALL or AIR aside from the gas from thrusters is necessary...that's how it works



WE WENT TO THE MOON.


And as far as technology goes, I don't know...I'm not a space engineer...but these issues we're talking about with air and inertia are basic physics

it's real simple...Craters won't be created without the force of AIR creating them...

that's why the apollo craft DIDN'T create one


PS...Satellites are in constant motion around the earth...to say we couldn't go to the moon because of meteors is to suggest that HBO doesn't exist because satellites couldn't survive the constant bombardment.

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Russia barely wants to commit to this space station like the US has


I also recommend seeing the IMAX presentation on the Space Station


it's awesome

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NASA is jus wastin mad money jus to go out there into space for no god damn reason while theres problem here in land they wanna escape their problems in space that is stupid......

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1: Nope. Try agian. The moon reflects the sun's light so if anything it'd be an ambient light IF THAT while one were actually one it and it'd be coming form the surface itself. Not from a direct and focused secondary point. That dosent explain the crosshair phenominon at all seeing that the crosshair is BEHIND another image. All the light in the world wouldn't do that. Especially seeing that the object that broke the continuity isn't luminiscent in any way shape or form.


A: False again. First up, the craft landing on the moon would apply force against the craft AND the moon's surface. Not magically defy physics and only apply it to the craft. Secondly, thrusters (aka afterburners) ONLY work off air. Ever see a flame in space? Don't you need air (and fuel and spark) to have fire??? C'mon man, this is thirdgrade stuff. "Thrusters" as you keep callin it only works off the basic principals of air. And they're not called "thusters" they're called Afterburners. They're defined as this:

af·ter·burn·er Audio pronunciation of "afterburner" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ftr-bûrnr)
n.

1. A device for augmenting the thrust of a jet engine by burning additional fuel with the uncombined oxygen in the exhaust gases.

Wait.....did that just say oxygen??? damn....


You keep aying "we went to the moon" but haven't given a credible explaination yet. Sounds liek you dont' even know the fundamentals of a friggin fire.

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actually the rockets bring up a supply of pure oxygen with them to direct the ship, and ignite the rockets that propel them off any surface which they may be on.

also, the moon is not a luminous object, it doesnt give off any light whatsoever, it simply reflects the suns.

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I will definitely RTF if u leave a link, thanks!

werd thats what it does reflect aint thjat cool......lol

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I'm not going to argue simple science with someone who likes to disagree for the sake of disagreeing...

There is virtually NO AIR RESISTANCE in space...so thrusters work much easier in space than on earth...There are molecules in space...but that's negligible for what we're talking about...

and Cross haird behind an image COULD be created through bleeding intense light...research it duke.


I'm saying that you could have a rocket take off on the moon and not create this huge crater or dust plume...Quite possible again due to the fact--AGAIN--that a dust plume is created by the air in between the ship and the ground, which on the moon doesn't exist.

You're argument that we didn't go to the moon stems on a few photos that exibit unusual light representations?

that's ridiculous...cuz, weren't u the same person who said GHOSTS can't exist because of of natural phenomenon...

now...which is more logical? that we went to the moon and there were visual abnormalities due to various light sources, or that there is an international Hoax to make JFK look like a fuckin hero?


get da fuck outta here

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AND I DIDN'T SAY THE MOON GAVE OFF LIGHT

I said it provided the 2nd source of light...we know that it's due to REFLECTION

and another reason U don't see Stars in the background is for that various reason...Compared to bright objects on the moon, they MAY NOT show up on the film.


c'mon guys...we WENT to the mooon...we have SAMPLES...PHOTOS...all U Conspiracy theorists have are counter-attacks due to bad scientific theories

and YES>..thrusters provide their own FUEL for combustion...u don't need an appreciable amount of AIR in SPACE for a rocket to move...cuz THERE ISN"T ANY.\


IN SPACE, THRUSTERS DON'T PUSH OFF SURROUNDING AIR, IT PUSHED OFF THE GAS FROM THE ACTUAL THRUSTER AND THE SHIP

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