Originally Posted by Verbal Shoota

Get your shit correct, son......album sales dont make you lyrically superior.

Originally Posted by Intermental

Ive totally lost all the respect I ever had of you, how can you think hes shit. First of all listen to these songs:

2pac - Starin Through My Rearview
2pac - Happy Home
2pac - Changes (u musta heard this)
2pac - Picture me Rollin
2pac - Ambitonz as a Ridah

Shows tupac propperly, and also I think Pac was influential on a music level and world level:

Music Level

First of all for his time period, there was not too many Raw, cutthroat rappers, he revolutinized rap, hes poetry reached many people, amongst me. He went through things people could understand and the way he expresed all of it reached us, His lyrics are jus amazing I will now point out some random lyrics from him, I guarentee brilliant rhymes:

These rhymes are from Panther Power, as a strong African American, I believe hugely in the Power Of the Panther, he kept this shit alive...

As real as it seems the American Dream
Ain't nothing but another calculated schemes
To get us locked up shot up back in chains
To deny us of the future rob our names
Kept my history of mystery but now I see
The American Dream wasn't meant for me
Cause lady liberty is a hypocrite she lied to me
Promised me freedom, education, equality
Never gave me nothing but slavery
And now look at how dangerous you made me
Calling me a mad man cause I'm strong and bold
With this dump full of knowledge of the lies you told
Promise me emancipation indispute nation
All you gave my people was our patience
Fathers of our country never cared for me
They kept my answer shackled up in slavery
And Uncle Sam never did a dam thing for me
Except lie about the facts in my history
So now I'm sitting hear mad cause I'm unemployed
But the government's glad cause they enjoyed
When my people are down so they can screw us around
Time to change the government now panther power

Those lyrics alone show the heart of a young man who was a strong black man and represented many of us, you may not be feelin his shit...but you wanna know why others do? heres a reason, his political views got him killed but told America what its really like.............

I could go on forever....but this is real and this is what I believe and this line by itself makes it sure to me Pac is real and Pac talked bout real issues

(In an interview)

"WE WERE ASKIN WITH MARTIN LUTHER KING, WE WERE ASKING WITH THE PANTHER, BUT NOW YOU THINK WERE GONNA ASK ANYMORE?....."

Half of his fans are white, so lets see why they like him, same REASON...his deep lyrics....

And YOU SAY NOW HE WOULDNT LAST....HE WOULD EASY...

50 cent is talkin bout candy shops and bein in a club.....Ja Rule Is caught up and Akons locked up...PAC would do BETTER NOW THAN BEFORE...

BEFORE THERE WAS RAPPERS LIKE LL COOL J, SNOOP DOGG (PRIME), DRE, BIGGIE...

So know your shit foo

Originally Posted by efecx

dont agree wit u teph wen u talkin bout how good pac is u hav to be talkin bout that time frame cause rap bk then wasnt about multis or asmuch about punches, it seems now to be 1 of the greatest right now u need amazing punches so u will be comparin pac against sum wit these amazin punches which is unfair cause no1 expected loadz of punches comin outta rapperz mouths

in my opinion a grat rapper is not how good his mutlis or pucnhes are but how good they can deliver there message n no1 can deny pac did that i mean no1 can deny that pac wasnt amazin at deliverin the message i mean he did say i will not change the world but i will spark the mind that will

but you wanna know why others do? heres a reason, his political views got him killed but told America what its really like.............

n intermental pacs political viewz didnt get him killed thats the biggest load of bullshit ive ever heard, so wat sum1 killed him cause thy didnt like hiz views on the american government lol stfu pac got killed cause he wanted to leave death row n start up euthanasia so suge ordered the hit