ok i read most of this thread.

first of all, i never actually said you was racist red bull, i called you on your choice of words.

what tha q is saying is..... put yourself in this situation.... u see a black man n think hes ugly and said "hes an ugly nigger" and then another black man heard u, and called u on it, and you said "but, but ,but i only called him in particular a nigger,i wasnt saying all blacks are niggers" do you honestly think your walking away with ur head on ur body??? i mean honestly???

the same applies here

monkey and ape are terms that are to this day still used to insult BLACK PEOPLE.... now u turn round and say "damn that black girl looks like a monkey or an ape" n a black dude heard u n called u on it, do u think u will get away with "but i was only calling her monkey-like, not all black people" do u honestly think he is going to let u live after u just used a word that is used to degrade people by racists to describe how ugly you think a black woman is????

they are both exactly the same, actually a black person, monkey is just as bad as calling them nigger, simply because of its history and the fact it is still used today to insult black people..... how would u feel if u was black, and people called u, ur family n friends e.t.c monkeys because they are racist n wanna insult u, and then u hear sum1 say "damn that black girl looks like a monkey".... do u honestly beleive you would shrug it off n not be offended???? i know damn well that i wouldnt.

me being white if i heard a white man say sumthin bout a black person lookin like a monkey, be it a joke or not, i would still lay them out, plain n simple...... all we saying is watch ur choice of words.... ive learned from experiences, in a heated argument once, i didnt realise id said it, but the kid was actin like a fuckin clown n pissin me, so i said he shud get a job as a circus monkey(basically talkin bout his personality) but didnt realise how it sounded to a group of black people that was there with him, n got stomped out.... it offends people, you might not intend it to offend people like that, you might find it pathetic or whatever, but you have to realise, they have their reasons for it, and quite rightly so, so just be carefull with ur choice of words is all we saying.